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Ted,
The 2" balling issue is from back in the 1890s when Lancaster first came out with the 2" Pygmy cartridge being used in 2 1/2" guns. I haven't seen an article of 2" shot balling in 2" chambered guns.
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Don’t get rid of the 16. “More” gets to be hard to define on bird guns. Sometimes, you don’t know what you had, until you don’t.
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Personally, I think 12s are the cat's meow, except when you have a pile of them, it becomes a bit easier to justify a 16 as something new and different, and shortly, it becomes a must have. And hence, I am in the hunt for one, still looking.
_________ BrentD, (Professor - just for Stan) ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/qclHjMQ.jpg)
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Fear not Ted. I won't be selling my 16, we've been through too much together and it took so long to find her.
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A light 12 is very doable, without the big, gold letters that say “for 2” cartridges only” on the top of the barrels.
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They may say "Hellis" or "Lang" or even "Jeffrey" but most all the 2-inch boxlock guns were made by Skimin & Wood in the early 1930s. The only ones I've seen that weren't were Holland & Holland and Purdey sidelocks. One Holland was even a Dominion model (very cool!).
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Much like a single trigger, 2” chamber guns answer a question I never asked.
I wish you all the luck finding one that fits.
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The Spanish (Arrieta) made some. However, they tended to weigh almost as much as quite a few Brit 2 1/2" 12's. But they do have modern stock dimensions.
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They may say "Hellis" or "Lang" or even "Jeffrey" but most all the 2-inch boxlock guns were made by Skimin & Wood in the early 1930s. The only ones I've seen that weren't were both Holland & Holland sidelocks. One was even a Dominion model (very cool!). Hi Lloyd, Skimin didn't make them all. I have two 2" boxlocks by Arthur Howell, one is marked "Henry Monk" and the other "W. Hodgson". The barrels are stamped "J.A." which I believe indicates that the barrels & actions were machined by Joseph Asbury.
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Redoak, reference the above. I have a Tolley 2" and Skimmin & Wood bought their name sometime before the gun was made. The barrels of mine are marked 'JA' too so he probably did work for them. Most English guns are a product of a group of outworkers. 10 to 1 your guns mentioned were Skimmin & Wood's. Henry Monk's are still in business in Chester as far as I know and may be able to shed some light upon the origins of your gun. Lagopus.....
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