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Just out of curiosity who was in business in the late 70s that would have been able to sleeve and refinish a best gun? Or better yet what options would you most likely use to send a best gun in for work during that time? Thanks and Happy Boxing Day!
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I know that Westley Richards were doing quite a bit of re-sleeving work around then. I don't know if they did it themselves or used an outworker. Lagopus..
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Benjamin Wild & Son,Wm Ford,Thomas Wild,G E Lewis all ran adverts for sleeving at the time but as always in the Trade,where you took your gun and where the work was done could be totally different places !!!
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Westley is my favorite maker but, there were some years that Westley's sleeving was not the best. most if not all showed seams.
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Sleeving was pioneered by Chris Ashthorpe. There is some information here http://worcestergunsmith.co.uk/history.htmlIn the earlier days of sleeving, the joint was always visible, I think because the new tubes were soldered in place?. I believe improvements in welding techniques allowed TIG welding to be used without the heat damage that would have been incurred with earlier processes. Note that many sleeved guns had damascus breechings, and steel tubes, so that the blacking had to be even across two different materials, difficult to achieve invisibly. The best sleeving nowadays is very good indeed at hiding the join.
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Thanks guys, I have recently pick up a James Lang sidelock that was refinished and sleeved in England in 1977 before it made its way to auction and then here to the states. The refinish Job is beyond excellent and if Birmingham hadnt have marked it sleeved you would never had known. So I was curious who may have been doing refinish/restoration work during that time. One thing to note the tubes were outsourced in Belgium.
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Just out of curiosity who was in business in the late 70s that would have been able to sleeve and refinish a best gun? Or better yet what options would you most likely use to send a best gun in for work during that time? Thanks and Happy Boxing Day! Malcolm Cruxton in Price Street, Birmingham. You can view photos of Malcolm and his fellow gunmakers of 1981 in his shop on pages 156 and 157 of David Williams book: "The BIRMINGHAM GUN TRADE" (copyright 2004-- Tempus Publishing Ltd)
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Thanks guys, I have recently pick up a James Lang sidelock that was refinished and sleeved in England in 1977 before it made its way to auction and then here to the states. The refinish Job is beyond excellent and if Birmingham hadnt have marked it sleeved you would never had known. So I was curious who may have been doing refinish/restoration work during that time. One thing to note the tubes were outsourced in Belgium. Can you post pictures? I recently had a James Lang BLNE of fairly decent quality - some very nice stuff bears his name.
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