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If you don't shoot it the same as others, it's different.

Any way you slice it, at shot, your eye, and the barrels, aren't pointing where you want them to.

What's the LOP and daf?

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I have a Beretta 425 made in 1965 28 inch barrels mod and full chokes and it just crushes birds and Clay's like no other gun I bought it used and only paid $800 for it

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first thanks to those that offered suggestions. I tried slowing my mount and swing down based on one recommendation and it helped. I also went back to pattern board and tested again, surprise, not 60/40 as I thought or even 70/30 but 100% of pattern was centered but just above aim point. Make sense why clays, that are often dropping as you shoot, due to clever setters, are difficult to hit with a high shooting gun


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So, if you cheek your shotgun with your eyes closed, You are seeing a lot of rib when you reopen them?

I'm just curious if the difference in this shotgun (from your others) is in the barrels or the stock is all.

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Once you are positive all the variables are the same on this gun, as compared to your others, with the exception of being butt heavier, a slight change in your shooing style may help tremendously. It did for me.

When I introduced a Fox A Grade 16 to my "stable" I struggled with it on doves, at first. Realizing the huge difference in the handling characteristics of it as compared with my clays guns I decided to try something different with it. Instead of mounting, tracking the dove, and shooting when it looked right, I tried tracking the bird with the muzzles as I mounted the gun, then firing almost as soon as the gun hit my shoulder. Worked like a charm. Last shoot with it in the early season here (last Saturday of Sept. '19) resulted in a 15 dove limit with 22 shells. Some were very long shots.

Don't be afraid to try things like that before giving up on the gun. Figuring that kind of stuff out is fun and does wonders for your self confidence in the field.

Best, SRH



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Again thanks to all, I am not giving up yet. I tried mounting with eyes closed and I see right down the rib but do see most of it. It is this way with my other doubles as well. I tried standing this double , against the wall, next to one I shoot well to compare pitch. Although the stock dimensions are the same and the pitch looks the same, when standing next to a wall, the new guns barrels are an inch closer to the wall. I contacted the seller and we are going to take off the sharp toe to see if that solves the problem.


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Nitrah,
The pitch could very well be it. Another member here that I regularly shoot with had the same problem. He had a gun that should have been a good shooter for him, but changing the pitch was the cure. I hope that's the case for you, let us know how it works out.
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Every gun I restock fits just right. I have the same measurements on a K-80 as I have on DH parker.

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Why would the current owner allow material to be removed from the stock?

Does it wear a hooked recoil pad for shooting trap?
It certainly sounds like somebody's trap gun.

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Originally Posted By: bill schodlatz
Every gun I restock fits just right. I have the same measurements on a K-80 as I have on DH parker.

bill


If your "serious" about killing birds or hitting clays I'd say Bill has the best method. I can modify the way I'm shooting for guns that don't fit quite right and be moderately successful. But I sure don't want to have to make adjustments to my regular shooting style on a covey rise or a 60 yard crosser in a FITASC tourney.


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