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I saw on either the Holland or Purdy you tube videos these round top files used for shaping the drop points. No file cuts on flat, just the top. Anyone know where to obtain them or something similar?
Thanks
Last edited by susjwp; 03/15/20 08:15 AM.
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I have not seen what you are referring to. Drop points can be a real challenge. Galazan sold a drop point chisel long ago. I have considered making one up. Do you have a link to the video showing the file you mention?
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I been experimenting with a bunch of things and still have to resort to the bloody scraper ,I actually contacted H&H and asked about the file where to purchase they offered little help other than the boys make them their selves ...it would be a simple thing to make your own just the same ,I just haven't took the time
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can you use a regular half round file with the flat part ground smooth?
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It would be interesting to see what these files look like. I have some files on bent handles that are supposed to be for inletting and they are the most useless things I've ever owned.
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I had recalled seeing the file before, or at least a version of it. 'Holland and Holland Factory Craftsmanship', an 18:52 length video on the tube shows it at around 9:15? That particular file looks to cut on all surfaces, maybe more for finishing than roughing.
I wouldn't think it's an off the shelf tool, but who knows? A quick picture of the cutting surface that's in use might be helpful as it may differ some from the showing side. Anyone have thoughts on creating fine file flutes?
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Craigd,
That is the one and the video. I suspected it was a hand fashioned tool of the stock maker/finisher. It certainly makes recutting those worn tear drops easier. This level of refinishing may be above my pay grade, but...
Thanks for the link.
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A "drop point" shaper is not a true file it is more of a rasp. they are very easy to make either from an old good quality file or from a 3/8 inch plain edge wood chisel. Either method you choose you will have to break the metal's temper so it will be soft enough for shaping. I did give instructions on how to break the temper of a file the method for the chisel is the same, then re harden it after shaping when I made two guncase turnscrews posting. I prefer the wood chisel because the top and bottom surfaces are smooth from the start it will also have a fitted handle with a file you have to make at least one surface smooth. Shape the end of either item you use round I prefer a lollypop shape rather than a plane round end because a waste gives better access. the cutting edge is just a number of straight cut teeth using a triangular needle file or a junior hacksaw then re hardened then tempered to pale straw.
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The Drop point files you are referring to are usually made by the stockers themselves.
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I'd sure like to see a picture of a "Drop Point Shaper". I have no idea what it might look like from the descriptions here??? I formed these with laying out with a template, then stabbing straight down with tiny chisels, relieving the chip then work the surrounding wood down with files and sand paper. My files have a safe edge ground so they only cut on the bottom and one edge. Maybe that is what you are describing? They are visually matched side to side and all traces of tool marks removed. Lastly, the tops are gently rounded over. I leave no extra wood, just what is left after shaping the lock panels with a tapering V the length of the drop point.
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