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Ok,looking for a sxs for pheasant where non tox is required. A mid 60's webley and scott. Looks to be all original. The second, heaven forbid, is sleeved, resocked, proofed for 1 1/4. And cheaper. This gun will be nothing special ,just something for the 2 3/4 and 1 1/4 oz

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If you want to spend less on a reliable pheasant gun, 2 3/4" for 1 1/4 oz loads, check out the Ithaca SKB's. (Or Browning BSS, if you're OK with a heavier gun.) Both cheaper than a Webley & Scott, and dead reliable. The ones with more open chokes, like IC/M, will also work fine with steel shot.

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The well kept secret is that "sleevers" work just fine if you like the balance and do not detract from value as much as some would have you think...Geo

Or maybe I'm just one of the suckers who will waste my money buying them!

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There are many options. I use 1.25 oz Bi loads for the most part in a Merkel and a Greener. 1.125 loads in a Cashmore. Not sure what I will use in the new Darne, but probably 1.25 oz again.

Larry's suggestion about the SKB is a good one. They aren't fancy but they are dead nuts reliable and handle and carry well.


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I have no problem with sleeved guns

Whether its a bss, skb, dickinson, they're all too heavy

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Originally Posted By: ksauers1
I have no problem with sleeved guns

Whether its a bss, skb, dickinson, they're all too heavy


If those are too heavy there is that Manufrance that I posted in the Francisque Darne threade that is 5# 10 oz or thereabouts. That should suffice for lightnesss. Or a nice Darne like I just bought that is 6# even. My Merkel is 6.5# on the nose. What meets your needs?


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Beretta made some nice sxs's from the 50-60's I don't know what prices they bring in the States but here in Australia $750-$1000 gets a nice gun

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I have a pair of 16 gauge SLE’s that have been sleeved and balance properly. A sleeved gun as a shooter can be brought at a discount compared to original barrels

That said in 12 gauge there are plenty of non-sleeved examples to find a decent Webley Scott or a Webley Scott action with someone else’s name on it.

As others have stated there are some good Beretta SXS out there

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/shotguns/beretta-shotguns-sxs.c819_p1_o3.cfm

Note lastly the 12ga SXS is a buyers market more than any other gauge

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Don't buy a BSS. I've shot one for many years with heavy steel duck loads, and it has never failed me in any way, but it probably will. They only made so many of them in 30" barrel length, and if and when I shoot this one to pieces I may want another......... sorry as they are.

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If you throw it up to your shoulder and it fits you nicely then get it and shoot the heck out of it.

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