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Originally Posted By: ClapperZapper
How long, and how hard, for Why? Again?


You weren't asking me, but I enjoy making and doing things myself, even if that requires more time, money and effort. Even if some folks consider it bodgery (by which I assume you mean cobbling something together, not chair-making).

And, sometimes, it's actually less effort and money to just make or do something. For example, I spent quite some time and effort trying to find disc set spanners for an AyA 4/53 that quite firing in one barrel. I finally gave up and made my own. Turned out not to be a firing pin issue as expected, and I'm glad I didn't send it all the way to New England (AyA's US repair site) to figure that out. In fact, the problem was floating metal from a poor repair of a broken internal part, undoubtedly by the same smith who buggered the screws. After I found the problem, I was quoted about $400 plus shipping, FFL, etc by my nearest 'qualified' gun smith to repair. Instead, I ordered a replacement part for $12 plus shipping and fixed the gun myself (following the advice on how to repair it that I got from said gunsmith-- they were very helfpul). It was my first gunsmithing project. I ultimately saved a lot of money, and also learned a ton in the process.

Here's what I found under the hood:


As to the original question of "how?" not "if?", I don't have even a fraction of Mr Flynn's experience, and I suspect his answer or something similar is best.

What I did, for what it's worth, is use a small belt grinder to fit the drivers I used. I started with a set of Grace drivers that turned out to be too thick, just like your Brownell's bits. Would have been cheaper to use old junk drivers I had laying around I guess.
I also made new handles on the lathe, but that was just for the fun of it. The only disadvantage I see to that is that I don't have the option of chucking them up in the press, which would be great.

Here's a picture of some of mine. Obviously a waste of time to make nice handles, etc except for the aesthetics and fun of making something on the lathe.


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Some people just don't understand, Woodreaux. You do, and I do, too. That doesn't make it right for everybody, but it also doesn't make it wrong for us.

The reality is ...... if you think everybody that isn't a professional will booger up what they do, you probably shouldn't try it yourself. Because, most likely you will.

Good post.

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Replacement screws are a cottage industry.
Must be a reason.

If I want to remove a screw, I'm going to measure the slot, and pick a bit that fits the slot. Maybe belt sand one a touch thinner.

I'm not going to buy Taconite pellets.

It's about removing a screw without messing up the slot.


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In my experience at the bench, there is a much larger proportion of gun owners who acknowledge their limitations and don't try to work on their guns, than "gunsmiths" who won't acknowledge their limitations, and do.

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Words of wisdom, Mike. Well said.

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As an related aside, where would one locate thin saws to create and/or clean up screw slots? I'm not even sure what kind are used.

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Right here:

https://www.mscdirect.com/browse/tn/Milling/Slitting-Slotting-Saws?searchterm=Slitting+%26+Slotting+Saws&navid=4287923964

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I see it didn't link. Go to mscdirect.com and do a search for slitting-slotting saws.

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Slitting saw blades are often available on ebay cheaper than normal suppliers. I just stocked up. I use .020", .025" and .032" most frequently.

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Brownell’s used to sell a set of Thin Bit set to compliment their std Magna-tip set. 18 thin bits.
I have found them useful on many British screws.
Their std set is 0.030-0.050” various widths
Thin set are 0.020-0.025” various widths

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I have the Magna-tip thin bits and I had to grind one thinner to fit the screw to remove the sidelocks on my wife's Grulla.

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