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IN MY 10 LB SCOTT EXCELLENTIA 10 GA, I USE SMOKELESS, I USE 24 GR GREENDOT WITH 1 1/4 SHOT AND IT IS A NICE FUN LOAD FOR TARGETS OR GAME

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Thanks for your insight and kind words in your post. I have shot killed more game, won more SxS events with the short 10 than anything else. I wish more people would give it a try and forget about the old wives tales of being too heavy and too much recoil. Long live the 10 gauge!


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I whole heartedly agree! Grow a pair and try the short 10. It was certainly good enough for Bogardus and its definitely good enough for me! I hope that someday people will get past the idea that the 16,20, or 28 are somehow superior to everything else in existence. Although I own many of those gauges and enjoy shooting them, there is nothing...absolutely nothing that comes close to the 10!


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I have "a pair", thank you.

Why do you think that "people" think that "the 16, 20, and the 28 are superior"?

I'm good with you loving you some short ten. But, take it easy on those who don't buy into worshipping at the short 10 altar.

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Stan, the original intention of the post was not to "offend" anyone's sensibilities but to simply offer an alternative to the everyday chatter. We have all heard a million times that a 16 throws a perfect "square load" so it must be the greatest thing since sliced bread. We have also heard that the 28 is somehow magical in its own right. And lastly, we have heard over and over that a 20 will do everything a 12 will do. Well...that is just not so! The short 10 barely gets a mention so this post was meant to give folks a chance to ponder an alternative to the status quo and hopefully try it out for themselves.


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I have tried that load and it works well, especially in my Charles Daly. I also use the reduced red dot load of 19.0 grains and 1 1/8 ounce of shot regularly for birds and clays.


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No offense taken by me, but thanks for explaining. No problem with favoring one thing over another. Variety is the spice of life, they say. I just can't reason why someone would want to shoot clays with a 10 ga.

I have many doubleguns in .410, 28, 20, 16 and 12, and I use all those gauges. I choose the gauge and load that fits the situation best, which is why I no longer own a 10 ga., either short or long chambered. I have a lifetime of experience hunting game of all sizes with shotguns, from deer down to doves. IME the short ten was no advantage to me at all, and big and slow.

As I mentioned, I'm glad you enjoy them and are, obviously, enthusiastic about it. Just thought the comment about growing a pair was a little much, unless you really believe carrying and shooting a big bore gun is somehow macho.

I've probably had too much to say about it anyway, so I'm done. (I think I hear a collective "Whew!").

Happy Memorial Day weekend, SRH


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I had a client back in the "old days" at MW Reynolds who owned a Thomas Turner BLE in short 10. The gun was as light or lighter than most 12s. He called it his "snake" gun because the entire length to the tubes and action were stippled in an effort to eliminate any reflection (his and my supposition). The only 10 I've ever lusted after so fiercely.

I must confess to falling for the macho effect of the big 10 for a few years. Talk about being beaten like a red-headed stepchild, 3 1/2-inch magnum shells in a 9 1/2-lb BLNE. Very few people (other than stupid me) ever shot it more than once. I'm lucky I didn't get detached retinas(!). It did work well on big ducks and geese, however. I had opened the chokes so it could shoot relatively-inexpensive steel and it finally shot itself loose after a few seasons of digesting the only commercially available shells I could find up in nowhere Minnesota, the ones with 1540 fps velocities at the muzzle. With those shells, it sounded more like a rifle than a shotgun when you uncorked it.

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Another reason I like the short 10 is that they generally cost less money on the open market and at auction. I usually shoot 12 gauge inserts at clays but at least once during a round of skeet or sporting clays I will throw in a black powder 10 gauge round and it scares the hell out of everyone! Good times indeed.


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I have dozens, maybe a few less, of tens, maybe a few average tens, maybe a few really lightweights, maybe a few heavyweights, but all good guns to shoot. The big problem with tens is how to load for them or how to deal with RST to get shells. I will post about how to deal with that, but hold on.

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