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ksauers1 #572400 05/19/20 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted By: ksauers1
[quote=rocky mtn bill]Goillini, You got me wrong. I don't question the outcome under present law. I do want the law changed; I can't see why the popular vote is OK for every office in the land other than president. I understand the original intent. I just don't think it makes sense today.

Why doesn’t it make sense today?

I for one , wouldn’t want to live in a country ruled by New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, and Rocky Mountain bill


“Reaching across the isle” has always meant conservatives give up their values and go along with whatever the libs have in mind. Looking at the news, it seemed the four things deemed most dangerous by the blue state govs were, freedom to assemble, freedom to peacefully protest, any first amendment rights, and anything to do with the second amendment. Hey, Craigd, did I miss any?
Something that can’t be pointed out too many times is how much better off granny was in a nursing home in a red state, like Florida, versus a blue state like MN, NY, NJ, CA, and on and on and on. Do you suppose the reds were just lucky, or, was there more at play?
If you needed an abortion, you were good to go in the locked down system, chemo, well, not so much.

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hopefully, this thread will be the beginning of the new misfires...

where one may express his thoughts here about whatever...

and only limited by ones knowledge and imagination...and of course dave's tolerance...

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"Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem." Ronald Reagan, 1981...
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and speaking of tolerance...where is the man? where is the head liner? where is that which this all started to be about?

we can only keep this going for so long with openers and impromptu performances...if the star does not appear soon, i fear the audience will become bored and wander back to the bar...


"Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem." Ronald Reagan, 1981...
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Originally Posted By: Ted Schefelbein
....“Reaching across the isle” has always meant conservatives give up their values and go along with whatever the libs have in mind. Looking at the news, it seemed the four things deemed most dangerous by the blue state govs were, freedom to assemble, freedom to peacefully protest, any first amendment rights, and anything to do with the second amendment. Hey, Craigd, did I miss any?....

More and more, I think the blue state govs are worried about the spigot window closing. Hypocrisy, Bill says now's the time for mob rule voting. kali has fortyish times the population of Montana, I suppose that means MT can start by diverting its public land funds for tent cities and needle programs on the left coast. They will come, if it's built without compromise.

edit to add, doesn't ed have bigger receivers to fry?

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Remember this.
In any negotiation, the first to make a concession, looses the most.

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Dumb, but learning...
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Originally Posted By: Ted Schefelbein
....“Reaching across the isle” has always meant conservatives give up their values and go along with whatever the libs have in mind. Looking at the news, it seemed the four things deemed most dangerous by the blue state govs were, freedom to assemble, freedom to peacefully protest, any first amendment rights, and anything to do with the second amendment. Hey, Craigd, did I miss any?....

More and more, I think the blue state govs are worried about the spigot window closing.


I think you missed that the blue states have to keep subsidizing the red states - most especially Montana. That's the spigot that keeps on giving. When it closes, Montana and a bunch of other blue states are gonna be hurtin' units.


Originally Posted By: craigd
edit to add, doesn't ed have bigger receivers to fry?


OUCH!


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Feel free to help me understand how California subsidizes Florida. Now, if you want to say California subsidizes México, that I understand.

Craigd, good one.

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My experience is opposite. It bears out studies that show the length of negotiations are related directly by how well the negotiators know each other. So losing and winning, each getting what they want through concessions, may depend more on trust than any opening bid.

I've been involved in negotiations with international corporations who've given their negotiators instructions that negotiators knew couldn't work, which led to rancorous and time-wasting conversations. We imposed recesses and suggested better strategies for company negotiators to take back to their bosses.

Results always most satisfactory. Our association, world-acclaimed for its social dynamics and innovation, has had a harmonious and productive relationship with the forest industry since its beginning nearly 40 years ago. No strikes, just educating industry in the pursuit of mutual worthwhile goals.

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Originally Posted By: BrentD
Originally Posted By: Ted Schefelbein
....“Reaching across the isle” has always meant conservatives give up their values and go along with whatever the libs have in mind. Looking at the news, it seemed the four things deemed most dangerous by the blue state govs were, freedom to assemble, freedom to peacefully protest, any first amendment rights, and anything to do with the second amendment. Hey, Craigd, did I miss any?....

More and more, I think the blue state govs are worried about the spigot window closing.


I think you missed that the blue states have to keep subsidizing the red states - most especially Montana. That's the spigot that keeps on giving. When it closes, Montana and a bunch of other blue states are gonna be hurtin' units....

I think I get your point, but basically, some states have the carelessness to leverage a greater percent of their future than others. Ask Bill, is the entire state of Montana gonna be a hurt'in, or mostly the part that's high 24/7 and entitled to a magical direct deposit and zero copay 'health' plans.

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Originally Posted By: King Brown
My experience is opposite. It bears out studies that show the length of negotiations are related directly by how well the negotiators know each other. So losing and winning, each getting what they want through concessions, may depend more on trust than any opening bid....

I trust you forget to factor in racism?

In my experience, 700x is primarily for clay target loads. I suppose depending on what upland bird one is after and moreso in the duck marsh, are there any other powder options?

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