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Thank you, I hope I can add something useful to this terrific thread! I was beginning to think that I was the only pinfire nut left .......

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Welcome, ivanhoe. There are at least a few of us!

I just picked up a couple neat excavated English pinfire shotshells:

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Hi, Take a look at Ryedaleauctioneers.com I have 3 pinfire guns for sale there this coming Saturday. Lot Numbers 117, 118and 119. 117 has a very unusual grip safety. I have only come across 3 others in the last 44 years. One was a Purdey, back in 2015, which was sold at Christies, London. I hope to post some pictures of my last 3 remaining pinfires shortly.

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Hi, I have 3 pinfires up for sale at Ryedale Auctioneers this coming Saturday. 2 by Blanch, one by Masu BrothersThe lot numbers are 117, 118, 119. The 117 is a very nice Blanch, with a very rare "grip" safety. A leftover from the dying days of percussion. I have only ever come across 4 in 44 years. One sold at Christies London in 2015. A Purdey. Take a look at Ryedale online catalogue, let me know what you think? Dave

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Hi Steve, I have 3 pinfires for sale at Ryedale Auctioneers this coming Saturday, you might take a look? Their photographs are somewhat sparse. They post the results of their past auctions, too, so you might find the pinfires I sold there over the last 2 years. Dave

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Ivanhoe, I hope your sale is successful and these fine guns find new homes. I see two J. Blanch & Sons, and a Masu Brothers, in the sale. Early in this thread I pictured a J. Blanch lever-over-guard, number 4696, similar to one you have at action. The earlier Blanch you have in the sale, with the single-bite, forward-underlever and the grip safety, is a nice early example and very interesting (sadly the auction house did not list the serial number). Here is the picture of lot 117 off the auction site:

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Grip safeties are an interesting hold-over from the percussion era, and they are unusual enough on pinfire guns that it is difficult to determine just when makers stopped incorporating this feature. A grip safety makes sense if you are spending time around the muzzle end of loaded barrels, as one might do when loading/unloading a percussion cap gun -- but not so relevant on a breech-loader.

I've encountered three pinfire game guns with grip safeties in about 26 years of searching, so adding your 4 in 44, makes for 7 encountered in 70 combined years of digging... rare indeed. For those not wishing to scroll back into the pages of this thread, here are the three I described earlier:

Harris Holland no. 824
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Hugh Snowie no. 3277
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Steve, the serial number of the Blanch is 3626. The other Blanch shows no serial number, except for the number 307on the fore-end hook. I doubt this is it,s serial numberI I sold a H Holland pinfire, a nice example, last year, straight - forward, no grip safety
Have you ever trawled the jblanchdatabase.co.uk lots of pinfires there, some with photographs, and one of them, a 10g has a grip safety !

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I have Powell patent action pinfire and centerfire guns in my collection with grip safeties.
The latest installation I've located in their records was 1909.

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That.s very late for a grip safety, which was really a hangover from percussion days. All the ones I have seen were made before 1868. Can you show pictures of them?

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Did you take a look at the 3 pinfires I have for sale at Ryedale Auctioneers on Saturday? What did you think to them Dave

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