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You Pinfire guys might want to take a peek at this one. The seller thinks it is a Lefever:

https://www.gunbroker.com/Item/913537484


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I got my Reilly pistol in. I think it is definitely English made. London proofs on the barrel and frame. Nothing else anywhere.

It is interesting though as out of my thousands of cartridges I don't have a cartridge that fits it. It takes a "smaller diameter" 12mm cartridge and the early French ones fit fine but the pins are not close to being long enough. If I move forward a decade+ there are Eley cartridges which do not fit it quite right even though they made a long-pin example. Carbine-length cartridges that sometimes have a longer pin do not fit either.
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Aaron....that is a very fine pistol. I have never ever seen a J.C. Reilly name on a center-break pistol or center-break anything. It is beautiful. It has to be before September 1857....but what an unusual gun! There is UK history here someplace.

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Interesting pistol to be sure. Also interesting to see the centered, vertical arrangement for the pin. On single barrel game guns, the hammer nose is toed-in, but the pin is slightly canted off-centre, to give a clearer sighting plane. AaronN, from your picture with the cartridge with the long pin, does the pin act as a ‘sight’ to be lined up with the sight at the muzzle?

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I cannot add anything of substance, but what a pleasure to have good photos. Thanks

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Well, that long pin Eley cartridges does not fit in it all the way. It sticks out a bit and doesn't close. However, I do not think you would see the pin very well as the hammer would be in the way unless you were pointing at the ground, looking under the hammer.

Also, trying some more cartridges in it, it seems there are variances in the angle of the pins on some of these eley cartridges and far back on the case they are which is why some do not not fit.

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The spur on the trigger guard/lever suggests the pistol is to be carefully aimed… what constitutes the rear sight? And isn’t the protruding pin in the way?

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You Pinfire guys might want to take a peek at this one. The seller thinks it is a Lefever:

https://www.gunbroker.com/Item/913537484


Hi Keith,

It’s a pretty high price for that gun( like 2x - 3x too high). It’s a model 1849 Lefaucheux. If they took the barrel off it may actually be dated (many of this model were) which could tell if it was made by Lefaucheux before he died or by the company after.

I actually just owned a similar one for a single day this past weekend: https://casimirlefaucheux.com/t/lf-501-casimir-lefaucheux-model-1849-with-cripple-stock/421

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Yeah AaronN, I thought it was kind of pricey too, even considering the amount of deep relief engraving. We see the same thing with ornately engraved German and other Continental shotguns, simply because the number of collectors is too small to create the demand that translates to high prices.

But I can just imagine what it would cost to have a gunmaker duplicate that work today. Anyway, I do appreciate the information and photos you guys post about pinfires. It is an interesting part of the evolution of firearms.


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