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Personal taste, but it's a better shooting gun with the pad. Surely, a skeleton buttplate is a thing of beauty, but slides around on your shoulder. Doesn't matter on a Japanese Parker...
JR

It absolutely does matter . . . on several levels.


Ok, one level is enough, so let's hear it.
JR

Resale value.


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Originally Posted By: Wild Skies
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Personal taste, but it's a better shooting gun with the pad. Surely, a skeleton buttplate is a thing of beauty, but slides around on your shoulder. Doesn't matter on a Japanese Parker...
JR

It absolutely does matter . . . on several levels.


Ok, one level is enough, so let's hear it.
JR

Resale value.

It's already re-color case hardened. Plenty of buyers would prefer the nice leather-covered pad over the sbp. I certainly would.

Parker Repro buyers are shooters, not collectors. Originality matters very little.
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I have guns with and without pads. Some applications, like quail or woodcock I like no pad because it is faster for me. Duck guns need pads and dove guns or target guns are better for it.

One thing for sure though, a shotgun without a pad is going to slip and fall off whatever you lean it against sooner or later...Geo

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Geo., no doubt there's a goodly number of folks that will agree with you, but you're veering off point here. What we're talking about is whacking off the SSBP from a Parker Reproduction to install a nice leather-covered recoil pad. Not only will one pay a craftsman ~$300.00 - $500.00 for the pad and installation you'll also take another ~$500.00, or more, hit should you try to resell the gun. The net result could be that it cost you $1000.00 for that nice leather-covered pad. Not to mention your pool of potential buyers will be greatly reduced; unless of course you can find someone that doesn't value resalability and/or originality.


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Let’s not ignore the fact that original owner “lengthened the stock” with that pad. I don’t like pads on my guns, but if they need extra length, they get pads. Not much you can do to save a SSBP in that scenario.

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There are other options to save the original butt and lengthen the pull. Leather lace-ons have done the trick for me and thousands of others for a long, long time.

They may be beneath the dignity of some, but not me.

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Wild Skies, no doubt you are right. Hard for me to think of Parker Repros being collectibles when I've seen them go from being inventory reduction sale items...Geo

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Originally Posted By: Wild Skies
Geo., no doubt there's a goodly number of folks that will agree with you, but you're veering off point here. What we're talking about is whacking off the SSBP from a Parker Reproduction to install a nice leather-covered recoil pad. Not only will one pay a craftsman ~$300.00 - $500.00 for the pad and installation you'll also take another ~$500.00, or more, hit should you try to resell the gun. The net result could be that it cost you $1000.00 for that nice leather-covered pad. Not to mention your pool of potential buyers will be greatly reduced; unless of course you can find someone that doesn't value resalability and/or originality.


No, what we're talking about is THIS particular gun. This is a hell of a nice gun as is, and originality is not a consideration on this gun. I actually would rather have this gun with the redone case colors and the pad than an all-original version.

There's a ton of Parker Repros out there, way too many to worry about resale values or high original condition. The market on them is very soft as well. I haven't owned but 8 of them over the years, but I think I'm right on this. Ymmv.
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How do you know Geo. that Parker Reproductions will not rise to collector status in the future? Some models are already considered collectible. Yes, there may be a contingent that hold some prejudices against the Repros, but their numbers are dwindling. There was a day when mid to high grade or smallbore Meriden-built Parkers weren't collectible -- look at them today -- one may have to mortgage their home in order to acquire one!

Then you have well respected gun writers like Dewey Vicknair and/or David Trevallion touting Parker Reproductions. Trevallion with his The Parker Reproduction Story in the Jan/Feb 2019 issue of SHOOTING SPORTSMAN where he writes "Parker Reproduction guns were in every respect equal - if not superior - to the originals." Articles written now and in the future about Parker Reproductions by such individuals with credentials like those mentioned above will create demand and drive collectibility to those coming after us...and it will be the original and highest conditioned Repros that will be most valuable.


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Well they may not be considered as "collectibles" , but are nice guns. Price wise dealers seem to treat BHE and A-1s as collectible. Seems like the classic straight stock, splinter forend, and especially double triggers are sort of scarce.

The pad does kind of ruin this gun for me. Having said that I do wish the Repros used longer stocks so I understand why a pad was added. I bet if the SSBP was on it it would be priced higher.

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