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big al1 #579676 09/11/20 09:13 AM
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Last gun I picked up they made was a Revelation and that was at the NE SXS event a few years ago. How this gun ever got out for display was beyond me. There was soldering showing where the ribs had joined the barrel and one gun was missing a front bead. They looked good from a distance but once held in ones hand and really looked over, then the obvious flaws began to surface. I asked the sales rep about the obvious issues and his response (which seemed plausible) was these guns were pulled off the rack before they had gone through final QC, so they would have some to display at the event.


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big al1 #579677 09/11/20 09:27 AM
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Tut, that sounds like a very counterproductive display.


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Gt1900 #579682 09/11/20 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted By: Gt1900
Screw CSMC! I’d own more of their guns if their QC wasn’t crap, unfortunately, almost every CSMC gun of people I know, has gone back to CSMC to get fixed. I finally gave up on my Inverness and excepted the s@$t bores on the barrels, because I was tired of dealing with them. Eventually their reputation will proceed them, and they will be out of business.


As a CSMC 21 owner I would strongly agree with this gentleman & I would add "God help you" if you ever have to send anything back to them for repair as it will be worse when you get it back. They can't seem to do anything w/o buggering up screws or worse.

big al1 #579690 09/11/20 11:20 AM
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I was living about an hour from New Britain when CSMC introduced the 16ga RBL. The pre-production price was very attractive (if I remember correctly, about $2750) and I thought long and hard about making the stretch and sending them a deposit. In the end, I didn’t. Instead I stayed with my long standing approach of saving and watching for certain classic sxs’s. Reading this thread this morning makes me glad I did.

big al1 #579821 09/13/20 12:44 PM
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big al1 #579823 09/13/20 01:37 PM
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CSMC has been successful by appealing to an affluent clientele with guns and other related paraphernalia perhaps not quite built up to their price point. Some of it's business has come from folks who wish to be thought of as affluent but who really cannot afford the loss when perceived value fails to translate to (after) market value.

The disappointment of that experience has resulted in bad PR for the company. For what they are though CSMC occupies a needed niche in the business, and I do not see them going out of business any time soon...Geo

Geo. Newbern #579825 09/13/20 02:46 PM
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I wouldn’t buy anything from CSMC. They likely don’t care, but they should. Enough former buyers like me and they will care....and go broke.


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big al1 #579827 09/13/20 03:19 PM
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I have RBLs in 20 and 28 gauges. Pretty nice guns for the money.

big al1 #579828 09/13/20 03:25 PM
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I love my RBL 28 and I love my 20g. Inverness and I have not had any problems with them. Although I sold 2 20g. RBL's that just did not do it for me, I had no trouble with them. I knocked the back corners off on my 20g RBL forearm. They fixed it for free. My inverness went back for a relatively minor mechanical issue and it was fixed promptly. Maybe I have been lucky but I would guess people who post have had a bad experience. Few people post positive experiences because most of those are non issues.

Poorly regulated barrels on a FAIR Iside 12g that they would not fix and said 6" between barrels at 16 yards is within their specs is something I have posted but many like their Isides. So, go figure.


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big al1 #579832 09/13/20 03:48 PM
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This summer I sent my 20 ga fox which I ordered from them in 1995 back to them for restoration. I have hunted this gun hard for 25 years. They reblued the barrels, refinished and checkered wood, re-casecolored. Turn around time was just over a month. I am very, very satisfied.

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