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Originally Posted By: Jtplumb
Prince Leopold von Bayerns monogram is not the same as the L on this gun, so I believe auction house fellow got it wrong. Whos gun was this?


I do not know about the monogram, but Prince Leopold would have been my guess, too.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopold_von_Bayern

But with the lack of detail info all we can do is guess.

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Odd other gun that was made for him had different monogram but info seems to go his way. Thanks

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It is a prince's crown, but the L is much more likely a surname.

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The best place to find candidates would be the Almanach de Gotha. Of course, besides German princes, Austrian, Polish, Russian, Belgian, Dutch, and noblemen from other continental countries could be purchasing a gun from a prominent German maker. Unless Springer's records miraculously survived, identifying the original owner is not likely to be possible.

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In 2019 Jani asked me for advice about this shotgun. Felix had asked Springer in Vienna for information that the shotgun had been delivered to "Kronprinz Prinz Leopold". There was no Austrian Crown Prince Leopold. However, a German one, namely Leopold of Bavaria, came into consideration:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopold_von_Bayern


As I found out today, this one was actually in the colony German Southwest Africa in 1909. Here an article from 2016 in the Allgemeine Zeitung Namibia:

"In May 1909, Colonel General Prince Leopold of Bavaria visited the German colony together with his son Prince Georg. With special permission they go hunting in the Etosha National Park. "Any shooting was prohibited, but an exception was made for the high-ranking visitor, and Governor Bruno von Schuckmann even left the number of pieces to be shot to their liking," General Ludwig von Estorff recalls. He was to be thoroughly mistaken in this, however, and the size of their prey exceeded his worst fears."

It can be assumed that his rifles were registered with the local police authority in Windhoek. The photo shows him (with a light hat) on his arrival in Swakopmund.


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Originally Posted By: David Zincavage
It is a prince's crown, but the L is much more likely a surname.


Never with aristocrats you will find the surname, only the first name.

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But it remains a problem for me: Since 1904 the official spelling was Windhuk instead of Windhoek......!?

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Wolfgang:

Is there a list of what the >>high ranking visitor<< did shoot?


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Raimey,

unfortunately not!

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Ah, dash it all.....


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