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Re: Are these pigeon guns or just decorated with? Jtplumb #581018 10/01/20 02:57 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 777 Likes: 36 Suffolk, UK Toby Barclay Sidelock
Toby Barclay Sidelock Joined: May 2004 Posts: 777 Likes: 36 Suffolk, UK	I have seen quite a lot of confirmed English pigeon guns with safety slides fitted. However they were very rarely automatic. Small bores were definitely used by some competitors in the UK and Europe back in the day but played by different rules, as mentioned above. Whether the guns in the OP are pigeon guns, I have no input to offer. I suspect they were a 'higher' grade model of normal sporting gun.

Re: Are these pigeon guns or just decorated with? Jtplumb #581020 10/01/20 03:08 PM
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,266 Likes: 199 Bozeman, Mt. Daryl Hallquist Sidelock
Daryl Hallquist Sidelock Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,266 Likes: 199 Bozeman, Mt.	Pidgeon guns were often described with "file cut flat ribs" . The guns shown seem to have that feature. I have/had a few guns, 12 bore, with the flat cut ribs, sideclips, tang safeties, and prooved for 1 1/4 oz or more. They were heavy guns with 30" barrels. http://www.bakercollectors.com/

Re: Are these pigeon guns or just decorated with? Jtplumb #581024 10/01/20 03:43 PM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,625 Likes: 73 Saxapahaw N.C. PALUNC Sidelock
PALUNC Sidelock Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,625 Likes: 73 Saxapahaw N.C.	I have a friend here in NC that purchased a Robertson 20 bore boxlock that Cyrill sleeved to 30" and had a pigeon rib installed. Not sure he used it for pigeons or for shooting doves down south of the border. Mike Proctor

Re: Are these pigeon guns or just decorated with? Jtplumb #581026 10/01/20 03:52 PM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 496 Likes: 3 Kyrie Sidelock
Kyrie Sidelock Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 496 Likes: 3	I confess I have found this thread to be a little confusing. Is the subject pigeon hunting, live pigeon competition shooting, both, or neither?

Re: Are these pigeon guns or just decorated with? Jtplumb #581041 10/01/20 04:53 PM
Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 548 Likes: 86 Jtplumb OP Sidelock
OP Jtplumb Sidelock Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 548 Likes: 86	Sorry but why would the guns in the first post above have pigeons engraved on them, if not for boxed pigeon shooting? In early 20 th century were they pigeon hunting ( maybe wood pigeons?)guns? Or just grade decor? Light 16ga tight choked with pigeons engraved?

Re: Are these pigeon guns or just decorated with? Jtplumb #581047 10/01/20 05:39 PM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,410 Likes: 313 AZ but dreaming of KS Drew Hause Sidelock
Drew Hause Sidelock Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,410 Likes: 313 AZ but dreaming of KS	European Wood Pigeon (C. palumbus) hunting was popular in England, Western (esp. Spain & France) and Eastern Europe (Hungary) in the 20s. Check out Palombiere https://www.rifleshootermagazine.co.uk/f...biere-1-5376880 https://sites.google.com/a/damascusknowledge.com/www/home

Re: Are these pigeon guns or just decorated with? Jtplumb #581052 10/01/20 05:54 PM
Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 548 Likes: 86 Jtplumb OP Sidelock
OP Jtplumb Sidelock Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 548 Likes: 86	Thanks Doc that Link was very interestIng and unusual. Reminded me of our best goose pits here.

Re: Are these pigeon guns or just decorated with? Jtplumb #581062 10/01/20 06:17 PM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 496 Likes: 3 Kyrie Sidelock
Kyrie Sidelock Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 496 Likes: 3	Live pigeon competition example (Spain): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2g4XlP_Gkw

Re: Are these pigeon guns or just decorated with? Jtplumb #581063 10/01/20 06:21 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 10,773 Likes: 182 North Alabama ellenbr Sidelock
ellenbr Sidelock Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 10,773 Likes: 182 North Alabama	You can still shoot the Silvery Wood Pigeon in Northern Argentina. Great video on pigeon shooting as that was for real money. I have shot with some pigeon shooters around the world and there's an art to keeping the pigeon from leaving the ring / grounds. Cheers, Raimey rse

Re: Are these pigeon guns or just decorated with? ellenbr #581071 10/01/20 07:04 PM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 496 Likes: 3 Kyrie Sidelock
Kyrie Sidelock Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 496 Likes: 3	The dedicated live pigeon shooters are a breed apart. Well, make that mostly "were" now. Increasingly just history.

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