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#582000 10/14/20 09:19 AM
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Related to the 20 or 12 thread. Isnt the 2 12 very similar to a 2 1/2 20? Ive been toying with the idea of a 2 12

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2 12!

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If you can find a nice 2" 12, get it. RST makes a nice shells for the 2" gun. The 2" 12 will have 12 gauge type proportions. Not a lot of them were made.

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Arrieta made some 2" 12 ga guns. They were the same weight as the 2 1/2 guns. I would get a 2 1/2 and then you an use 2"if you wish and still have the flexibility to use use both

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2" guns are usually quite light, similar to light 20's. Take care that you don't get yourself into a gun with lower swing efforts than you can handle consistently.

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In the 1930s Skimin & Wood made the majority of 2" 12 ga. guns rebadged by various other gunmakers. Most of the guns are in the 5.25 to 5.5 lbs. range depending on wood and barrel length. They were proofed for 7/8 oz. loads. Gil

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I had a 2 12. Neat little gun but a very limited use gun. I could do everything just as well with a 20 that I could with it. Much more in fact. There is a reason you dont see many of them. They were a gun created for a specialized niche which never really existed. To get the weight down the barrels were struck very thin from the factory. Both barrels on mine were choked IM and patterned beautifully. Super light, easy to carry and a bit of a whipped wand. But those thin barrels were a real dent risk in real hunting conditions. Real care. If dented removing a simple dent could create a ultra thin area. Most 2 I see for sale at Holts have had dents just repaired. Like their guns its warns each owner this gun just used up its one dent limit.

I was looking into joining a real interesting upland, quail, club. When I was doing my research I discovered 12 bores of all types were banned. It was funny to me that I could shoot any 20 gauge gun and ammo combination but could not shoot a lighter 12 load at all.

My advise is if you want a 2 12 be very careful in what you buy. Condition is everything because when you later go to sell it they will use an electron microscope on it. Buy it at your price. Figure on keeping it a couple years then finding something else as your next dream gun.

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Figure on keeping it a couple years then finding something else as your next dream gun.


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I was looking into joining a real interesting upland, quail, club. When I was doing my research I discovered 12 bores of all types were banned. It was funny to me that I could shoot any 20 gauge gun and ammo combination but could not shoot a lighter 12 load at all.



Isn't it remarkable how many people in positions of authority at shotgun facilities have so little knowledge of shotguns?

The same people post such nonsense as 'no high brass shells' or 'no 3" shells' when it's what's in the shells that counts.

It's the same with bans on 8 gauge guns for waterfowling. If there's anyone one group of people qualified to load their guns to a reasonable specification to be on par with say, a 3" 12, that IS legal it would be owners of 8 gauge guns. Show me factory loads.

I remember when the Top Gun target load came out. Some genius accused me of shooting 'high brass' shells at skeet targets.

The world is full of idiots, but you might think that folks involved in shooting would pick up some common knowledge on the way to the point where they are making policy.


"The price of good shotgunnery is constant practice" - Fred Kimble
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I owned one of the 2 Arrietas and enjoyed it quite a bit. It was a round body with 27 barrels and was barely under 6lbs. Like any light gun, it took more focus than usual to keep it moving. It was a great upland gun for me but if Im being honest, it had more novelty than any magical shooting properties. A 20 carries the same benefits and is much more practical. That said, I would love to add a 28 barrel 2 boxlock back to the fold because not everything in life needs to be practical.

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