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#589184 01/05/21 07:50 PM
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Reading some older, much older posts about Pieper I find a mix of opinions, who woulda thunk? I saw prices thrown out of a few hundred dollars to long commentaries on how exquisite Pieper's work was.

I am looking at the gun below and the seller is asking way more than a few hundred dollars for this. Any thoughts on the rough value? I shoot everything I buy.

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handsome gun...can you get photos of the proof marks?


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Last time I saw a Pieper sidelock of that era and engraving style it was a 12 ga and sold at auction for around $1800. I think it was Rock Island and it was about 10 years ago. I think this one is a little nicer and of course its a 16. But at the same time Id say prices for those mid quality vintage SxS are off from where they were 10 years ago.


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In 2020 I noted that a coupled similar modells but with much less adornment were appraised around $900.

Interesting >>Bayard Steel<< stamp.

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Thank you

I will ask the seller for some proof shots

Again thanks for your replies.

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Beautiful gun. I'd guess (and it's just a guess) that the pricing ought to equivalent to some of the lesser known, but still quality, Spanish makers. A 16 gauge SLE by one of them seems to be selling in the $3,000-4,500 range, depending on the level of finish and the era in which it was produced.

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I don't think it to be a bona fide side lock, but some variant. But I need to dig a bit.

https://www.maynardsfineart.com/auction-lot/bayard-sidelock-side-by-side-shotgun_22345D9A09

Seems like PeteM may have had the same or similar?








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Just as a sidenote, Henri Pieper had other hybrids like this horseless carriage from 1905:

https://patents.google.com/patent/US937859

U.S. of A. Patent Nr. 937859

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Originally Posted By: ellenbr
Just as a sidenote, Henri Pieper had other hybrids like this horseless carriage from 1905:

https://patents.google.com/patent/US937859

U.S. of A. Patent Nr. 937859

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Rainey, Henri died around 1898.....how could he have a patent from 1905?


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