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In doing a winter cleanout I found a flat of 16 gauge B&P Classic Type 1 Shotshells 29 gram. Length is 67mm which would seem to work for short chambered guns. Has anyone shot these, and does anyone have any idea of pressure?

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Tom Armbrust tested the F1 Classic 28 gm in 2001 at 1275 fps and 10,500 psi

Here is the B&P infro on the F2 Classic 29 gm; click on + INFRO
https://www.baschieri-pellagri.com/en/catalogo/cartucce+da+caccia/1/1/16.aspx
1312 fps (possibly muzzle rather than 3 feet) at 720 BAR = 10,443 psi

The F2 Classic fiber is 700 BAR = 10,153 psi

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Originally Posted by Drew Hause
Tom Armbrust tested the F1 Classic 28 gm in 2001 at 1275 fps and 10,500 psi

Here is the B&P infro on the F2 Classic 29 gm; click on + INFRO
https://www.baschieri-pellagri.com/en/catalogo/cartucce+da+caccia/1/1/16.aspx
1312 fps (possibly muzzle rather than 3 feet) at 720 BAR = 10,443 psi

The F2 Classic fiber is 700 BAR = 10,153 psi

thanks. Mine are yellow. Darn easy to confuse them with a 20 gauge hull. Like the lime color of the newer ones.


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Originally Posted by tut
Originally Posted by Drew Hause
Tom Armbrust tested the F1 Classic 28 gm in 2001 at 1275 fps and 10,500 psi

Here is the B&P infro on the F2 Classic 29 gm; click on + INFRO
https://www.baschieri-pellagri.com/en/catalogo/cartucce+da+caccia/1/1/16.aspx
1312 fps (possibly muzzle rather than 3 feet) at 720 BAR = 10,443 psi

The F2 Classic fiber is 700 BAR = 10,153 psi

thanks. Mine are yellow. Darn easy to confuse them with a 20 gauge hull. Like the lime color of the newer ones.

The newest ones are brown. I have both the lime-colored and the brown ones. My buddy has some of the old yellow ones.

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Originally Posted by Dave Erickson
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Originally Posted by Drew Hause
Tom Armbrust tested the F1 Classic 28 gm in 2001 at 1275 fps and 10,500 psi

Here is the B&P infro on the F2 Classic 29 gm; click on + INFRO
https://www.baschieri-pellagri.com/en/catalogo/cartucce+da+caccia/1/1/16.aspx
1312 fps (possibly muzzle rather than 3 feet) at 720 BAR = 10,443 psi

The F2 Classic fiber is 700 BAR = 10,153 psi

thanks. Mine are yellow. Darn easy to confuse them with a 20 gauge hull. Like the lime color of the newer ones.

The newest ones are brown. I have both the lime-colored and the brown ones. My buddy has some of the old yellow ones.

Remember when I ordered these. Didn't pay attention to the fact that a flat was only 8 boxes. The shells showed up and I called where I ordered them from to complain and they said I needed to learn how to read better, because it said 200 rounds per flat. I did recall I felt pretty stupid at the time.


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The 5's are really lethal on pheasants in my 16 gauge guns. I've never recovered a pellet. I took one of the more recent brown-cased loads apart this fall and checked them out. The particular shell had slightly over 29 grams of shot. They measured as true US #5's and even a little bit large. The shot looked very uniform, very round, but what struck me was how hard it was. I have a set of pliers I use for the all my squeeze tests, and I've done it enough to know when shot isn't "hard." With these B&P F2 #5's I had to squeeze pretty much as hard as I could to show a slight flattening where the pliers jaws clamped the shot. It's impressively hard shot.


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