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Argo,
Adopting that chant is sure to send him to the "other side". instead.
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Originally Posted by Argo44
... I suggested church once...

Preferably one you don’t need to carry a switch blade knife in your left hip pocket.

As for the rest of your post...


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Originally Posted by Drew Hause
After the invasion of the Low Countries by the Catholic King Philip II of Spain in 1567, and the August 29, 1572 St. Bartholomew's Day massacre (Massacre de la Saint-Barthélemy) of French Calvinist Huguenots, there was a Walloon (Belgium) and Huguenot (France) migration to Netherlands, Sweden, Denmark, Russia, South Africa, Germany, Ireland, Scotland, England, West Indies, South and North America, bringing with them Reform theology, and expertise in medicine, iron working and gun making, and textiles. The Huguenots were the intellectuals of France.
In 1600 400 Huguenot and Walloon mercenaries went to work for the Sultan.
In 1624 30 families, mostly Walloons and led by Josse de Forest, arrives in Terra Nova Belgica (New York) and settle New Avesnes (Manhattan) and the Hudson and Delaware Valleys. They wore silver half moons inscribed “Better Turk than Pope” from the statement by the Patriarch of Constantinople “Rather the turban of the Turk than the tiara of the pope.”
From 1661-1700 Walloons and Huguenots settle on the Binne Kill of the Mohawk River, establish Schenectady, Batavia (“better land”), New Rupella (Rochelle), New Paltz in the Walkill valley, Fort Orange (the future site of Albany), and in Connecticut, Pennsylvania and New Jersey, and to South Carolina.
Irénée du Pont was Huguenot, as were the Roosevelts. Delano was Walloon.

The branch of my family tree that provides me my surname is French Huguenot, who, after a brief stay of a couple decades in England, made their way to the lower Hudson River Valley where they were successful farmers and millers from the second half of the 1600's to the immediate post revolutionary war period of roughly 1792. At that point, after choosing poorly as to which side to support, my ancestors decided life would be better if they got "out of Dodge" so to speak. I'm pretty sure they were promised in a contract a fine cash settlement for abandoning their substantial assets, which the American government has failed to make good on. You guys owe me!


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Saint John's Episcopal Church is right across Lafayette Park from the White House, known as the "Church of the Presidents." During the summer/fall violent left-wing insurrection by Maoist graffiti mafias, President Trump famously visited the church:

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What is not well known is that for 100 years that church was home of the French protestant church in Washington, DC...the Huguenot's...followers of Jean Calvin (John Calvin), of course a French theologian and the founder of the Presbyterian church. My wife and I were married there in September 1982 during a brief return on leave from Africa. There was at the time a plaque to the left of the lectern in a small hallway which listed all the US Presidents with Huguenot blood - I recall seeing Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, FDR, etc. on the list.

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I can't find a picture of the plaque..perhaps it has moved - I'll try to get through the ridiculous 10' high fences topped by razor wire to see if it's still in place. (Washington was totally boarded up in early Nov 2020 and it was not because of a couple of hundred "right-wing" protestors). But leave it to the French to kick out their most productive, innovative and imaginative citizens in 1685....only Cuba does it better.

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Originally Posted by Argo44
Saint John's Episcopal Church

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Heck of a suggestion, Argo...


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...10' high fences topped by razor wire...

....better have a .44 hog leg up under your coat in that joint.


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Presbyterians . . . I grew up in that church. It has changed significantly since Presbyterian missionary Eric Liddell famously refused to run on Sunday in the 1924 Olympics (for those who remember "Chariots of Fire").

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We've wondered away from the Turks, but since LR is such a stickler for church history wink

John Calvin was responsible for much of Reform Theology and the Presbyterian (elder church governance) tradition
John Knox was responsible for the Presbyterian Church of Scotland, which is what (mostly) immigrated to the U.S.
The Congregationalists were Anglican non-conformists and eventually separatists in the Puritan tradition, most of whom were Calvinists.
Won't even try to 'splain the Particular (Calvinistic) Baptists smile

Eric Liddell, “The Flying Scotsman”, 400m Gold Medalist at the 1924 Paris Olympics and (Congregationalist) London Missionary Society missionary to Tianjin and Xiaozhang, China. He died in 1945 at age 43 in the Weihsien Internment Camp.
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