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gunmaker #595207 04/09/21 08:32 AM
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Actually, the reason the bottom barrel on an O/U normally fires first is because it is the barrel that is closest to the pivot point(hinge pin) and puts less stress on the action. Firing one shot is a much more common occurrence than doubles, so the stress doesn't even out over all. You can see this theory with O/U combination guns, that usually position the rifle barrel on the bottom. Of course there are exceptions, one being "low pressure" rifle cartridges( such as rimfire, 8x58R S&S, etc) and extremely strong actions( like some Brno models). As to whether double or single triggers are faster, I shoot double triggers and am never aware of which trigger I'm pulling, except when I want to use the tightest choke first.
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Very good observation Mike. 100% correct.


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If you look at the position of the hinge pin on a older BRNO it is high on the sides of the barrels.

You can see the hinge piin location high on the forward part of the frame.
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After the first shot the rest are just noise.
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Do I recall correctly that the front trigger on the BRNO fires the top barrel first?


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Oskar,
That is precisely the model I had in mind, one of my hunting friends in Germany hunted with one in 7x57R/12 ga. The lockup is also very strong.

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Oskar is better qualified to answer, but I think both triggers function as a single trigger, with the front trigger firing the top barrel then the bottom, and the rear trigger firing the bottom barrel then the top. If my memory of this is incorrect, I hope Oskar straightens me out.
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Mine is set up like a standard O/U with the rear trigger firing the top barrel which I really like as I have small hands and it is much easier to shoot accurately with a more comfortable grip. Some of the BRNO's have from what I've been told one of the triggers acts like a singe trigger but you have two to be able to select which barrel goes off first, I've never seen one thought. I really like this BRNO, it is in 12ga/5.6x52R(22 Sav. HP), just perfect for coyotes. I load 55gr Buffalo Arms soft points and they are extremely accurate.

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What is discerning is having a Bernardelli combo gun 12ga/5.6x50R Mag with the rifle barrel on the bottom but the same trigger set up, most of the time I shoot the BRNO so I'm used to it, more than once I've taken the Bernardelli out and dusted a coyote with BB's at 80+ yards pulling the wrong trigger.

The BRNO is my travel gun as I have a set of skeet barrels for it also. I just need to find a set of 28" shotgun barrel for it also.

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After the first shot the rest are just noise.
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Don't drink the SXS kool aid too fast.

Answer this.

Why then do o/u dominate every shotgun competition in every class/division? Dominates

There must be something to the O/Us advantage vs the SxS. If not, then the competitors would shoot a sxs or an auto


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Originally Posted by BEY
Don't drink the SXS kool aid too fast.

Answer this.

Why then do o/u dominate every shotgun competition in every class/division? Dominates

There must be something to the O/Us advantage vs the SxS. If not, then the competitors would shoot a sxs or an auto

Because O/U’s only have one sight plane which makes them easier to shoot! Just kidding...


There’s more to shooting than competition, and I’d hardly think whats seen in competition applys to shooting outside competition. The answer to your question is probably a long one. Alas, I’m tired from walking 6 miles with my pre-mounted 8.5lb 32” barreled DT11. I need to dig my F1 car out, got stuck on the way afield again.


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Originally Posted by BEY
Don't drink the SXS kool aid too fast.

Answer this.

Why then do o/u dominate every shotgun competition in every class/division? Dominates

There must be something to the O/Us advantage vs the SxS. If not, then the competitors would shoot a sxs or an auto

There most certainly is a reason why O/Us dominate the competitive shooting sports. It's because they excel at the competitive shotgun games. S X S devotees can ridicule the reasons given for why, but when "backed in a corner" the replies are always the same. "Well, I don't care if I give up a few birds." "I could care less about competition." "I'd rather have a picture of a S X S than own an O/U." However, none of the reasons address the issue, which is that O/Us dominate competitive shotgunning for a reason. They are superior for the purpose.

I had much rather shoot my S X Ss. I use them almost exclusively for doves, quail and ducks. I have as good a dove and quail gun as exists, IMO, in a 20 ga. Beretta 687 SPII Sporting. It has done the job perfectly on two trips to Argentina and took 8000 doves on those two trips. I've never seen a better dove gun for the money. But, I haven't shot it at doves for the last three seasons, preferring my S X Ss (mostly .410s). However, that doesn't change the fact that it is ultimately better suited to a high shell to dove ratio, or sub-gauge sporting clays competition, than is a S X S.

Some of us just have a hard time separating emotion, and sentimentality, from facts. They don't have to be at odds with each other. They can co-exist, and they do, in my realm.


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I happen to have only a few O/U's , the two combo guns an O/U muzzle loading shotgun and my old International trap gun from the 1960/70's my true love are sxs, they take coyotes too.

Old drilling that I killed this one with the shotgun barrels and then shot a respectable round of trap with.
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After the first shot the rest are just noise.
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