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#600538 07/30/21 01:19 PM
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Suffered with nearsightedness since birth. At 63, finally had left eye "repaired" with cataract surgery after having the right one done about a year ago. I have always been right eye dominate. Now it almost seems that they are "fighting" each other for dominance. When mounting an O/U, you get the desired "view" down the rib sometimes and other time you don't. It is not like you are left eye dominate, (similar to view when you close right eye) but you just a wider area than just the rib. Any suggestions? Is there such a thing as physical therapists for eyes?
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It is not at all uncommon to switch dominance as we age Tyler, and the improved acuity in the left eye now may be contributing to the timing.

The extremely short version of dominance and dominance shifting is that the dominant eye is not necessarily the eye with the best visual acuity, but the one with the "best" visual processing. This is very likely the issue with women who are much more likely to need some form of off-eye occlusive but who on formal testing are actually not much more cross-dominant than men.
Visual evoked potentials have shown that dominance is related to the difference in latency (speed of the impulse to the visual cortex) and amplitude (amount of impulse).
http://iosrjournals.org/iosr-jdms/papers/Vol2-issue4/D0241924.pdf

The problem is that "dominance" doesn't really capture all that is going on with binocular vision: there are LOTS of visual processing issues - binocular rivalry, rivalry dominance, stereopsis, motion perception threshold, and lots more I don't understand
https://www.trapshooters.com/threads/finding-the-master-eye.852691/

I asked a friend who teaches neuro-ophthalmology down the street at Midwestern U. why we switch dominance and he gave me that "you won't understand" look and said "we just do."

Likely more than you want to read

Dominance Switching Poll with review of the science
https://www.trapshooters.com/threads/dominance-switching-shifting-poll.778281/

"The Peculiarities of Vision"
https://www.trapshooters.com/threads/the-peculiarities-of-vision.793021/

This is one of the better posts regarding the science of seeing targets
http://www.trapshooters.com/threads/brain-will-use-the-clearer-eye.732609/page-3
http://www.trapshooters.com/threads/brain-will-use-the-clearer-eye.732609/page-4

And a thread with some interesting links that some here might enjoy reading
http://www.trapshooters.com/threads/shooting-and-golf-sports-vision.738209/

Poll: Corrective measures that have resolved my dominance issues
https://www.trapshooters.com/thread...ave-resolved-my-dominance-issues.778369/

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Try a piece of scotch tape in the center of the left lens. You can still see through it but it won't be in focus, so your right eye should take over as it should...Geo

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I have a problem with eye dominance that I think is unusual.
I had cataract surgery about a year ago. After the surgery my left eye non dominant eye lost a lot of visual acuity. The doctor said I had a hole in it.
Well my right eye is the dominant eye so I thought I'd be alright. But shortly after this my shooting went down the tubes. I couldn't hit station 8 high house at all and I also was missing station 2 and 3 high house. It took me a while until I realized my left eye (that I could hardly see with ) was taking over. I tried everything I could think of but nothing help much.
I can't understand how my left eye, my weak eye wants to take over. My right eye has always been strongly dominant.

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May I suggest you have a certified instructor evaluate your shooting. They can tell if your non-dominant eye is taking over or not. Sounds more like you may not be seeing the left to right shots as you used to, or in a timely fashion with your diminished vision in your left eye, but it’s impossible to say for sure without observing. An experienced instructor will be able to assess what’s going on more than likely. It’s next to impossible for the shooter himself to tell….even a guy that shoots at a very high level. There’s several reasons for a miss, eye problems only being one of the reasons.


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I'm left eye dominant but right handed. The simple solution is to close your left eye as you mount your gun. Or close it when you call for the target if you're shooting clays.

Had I realized that and its implications earlier, I would have switched to shooting left handed. (Not only is my left eye dominant, but I have slightly better vision than in my right eye.) Try doing that after you've been shooting right handed for decades and you'll find that it's incredibly awkward. It's not so much of a problem when the gun's at your shoulder, but adjusting to everything else including loading etc feels really strange.

Cataract surgery on my R eye several years ago initially helped my shooting. Then things started going downhill. Turned out I also had macular pucker in my R eye. Depending on light conditions and the background against which I was shooting, clays (or whatever birds I was hunting) would be visible if silhouetted against the sky. Against something like trees, there was a good chance they'd flat disappear. After I had the macular pucker taken care of, that solved probably 90-95% of my problem.

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Right eye dominant, left-handed here. Shot left with side by sides forever, but couldn't really make over/unders work. Laser surgery in the Spring of 2000 created an almost cross-dominant situation, but dramatically improved everything else. Almost by accident, I shot a stackbarrel about 6 months ago and discovered that I could finally shoot such a creation effectively. Things clearly do change with time (I'll be 64 in January). Now, I've been told that my brother is suffering from macular degeneration....hoping that isn't a genetic thing as I'd like to keep playing for a while (he's a smoker, I'm not). I do notice that my eyes get pretty tired by the end of the day (computer screens and cell phones surely don't help there) and I've been forced to use reading glasses almost all the time anymore, but my distance vision is still remarkably good (it was 20/15 last time I checked). When fly fishing I can still pick out a very small bug a long way out and movement when hunting always gets my attention. Hope that lasts for a long while here....

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To Tyler's original question re: eye PT, I have no experience but others have suggested that Phil Kiner's videos have been helpful
https://philkiner.cinevee.com/eye-improvement-program

Or just do what George said

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We are all really screwed up! I too am left eye dominant but shoot right handed. When I grew up it was almost forbidden to do anything left handed and I even had school teachers paddle my left hand when I picked up a pen with the left. Well, they only halfway succeeded, now I’m very ambidextrous except shooting a rifle or shotgun. Pistols are either hand—doesn’t make me any difference (I’ll miss with either). My right eye learned a long time ago to take over with a longarm and I have no problem. Weird!


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