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I saw a UFO too....

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A very interesting discussion.
Years ago (35?) BASC used to train would be shooting instructors to see the shot swarm in flight , it can be best described as being like perncil graphite shading in the sky.
Nowadays Instructor tuition seems to major on political correctness , health and safety , care in the community, and caring for environmental issues such as noise and lead pollution.
It is how the times are changing , when I was a kid , a cut or graze was repaired by sucking it , licking it or rubbing it , nowadays it is off to A&E and quarantine.

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When I started shooting trap at the VFW range in Kodiak Alaska we could see the shot strings rip through the moist air quite easy. Shoot in the rain or fog, not hard to see. Do it under the lights with moist air is even easier to see. You will still miss though......

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Was that before or after drinking at the VFW ?

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I have seen a shot cloud a couple of times shooting skeet, but what I found even more interesting was when I saw trace AND vapor trail shooting LR rifles.
When I told people that didn't shoot as much as me, many didn't believe it.

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I see the shot cloud of others when the sun is slightly behind the shooter and I’m in the right position to the shooter. I’ve also seen copper jacketed pistol bullets under certain light conditions. They look like a little flash when they catch the light. Shot strings look like smudges.

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At 6:30 almost to the end of this video there is a slow motion shot of the pellets with a white background.
Similar to the visible shot cloud on the skeet field..only faster wink



I once had a Parker SC SBT with .045 choke. I let friends use it and could clearly see the pattern when standing behind the shooter, all the way to the break of the target.

Not much humidity in AZ except during the Monsoon season, and I think the shot cloud is more clear without the humidity haze.

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I bet the sun was at your back too, Drew!?


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No. The trap and skeet fields at Ben Avery are in a long line facing north, and last week I was shooting skeet at 8:00 with the sun pretty much due east, as in right in your eyes on Station 1 looking for the high house target frown Could clearly see the shot clouds of the other shooters, but as said, I never have seen mine.

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Hmmm. Ok


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