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Some time ago there was an interesting discussion on what constitutes a pigeon gun. This gun has 32" barrels, M&F with left barrel firing the modified barrel first, vent rib. single trigger, no safety, highest grade W C Scott, superb wood, pigeon engraved on the barrel, a little over 9 lbs and its cased. Too basd there is no provenance.
So, is it a real honest to goodness pigeon gun? I really don't see why not.
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Cool looking gun. 9lbs is a lot...look at weight limit regulations of various clubs to determine age. Hurlingham had 8 lbs in 1881, 7 lbs 8 oz for 1882...etc.

As for owner. EFW are the initials. Defer to others to research the owner though for obvious reasons, the "W" must be Williams...(and I have no intention in bidding on it).

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The engraver should have been tarred and feathered.....zoom in on the side of the action.

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I don't see a problem with the engraving crappy pictures yes.

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This has the look of a shooter, a kind of expensive shooter......

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Originally Posted by AZMike
This has the look of a shooter, a kind of expensive shooter......
Define expensive, for a "shooter". I would have expected a much higher estimate for a Scott Imperial Premier. I think I would easily pay $4K for it as a SC gun and consider it a steal at that price, which I don't define as expensive considering value and function received, if I were in the market for such. Probably go for $5k at least, and maybe a lot more.
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It looks great, I'm concerned that fixing the ejectors would be a significant added expense to it. And that checkering strikes me as being just over the line into gaudy territory. For my tastes at least. But the double did get my attention!


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Well here is a possibility for "E.F.W." Any way to date the Scott Serial Number? That gun looks to have been made for America, right?

-- Edward Francis Williams, Baron Francis-Williams CBE (10 March 1903 – 5 June 1970). Brit newspaper editor, who came to USA as a professor later on.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Williams,_Baron_Francis-Williams

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The forend isn't original and some one did some crappy work on the kickers if it's a south gate it isn't that difficult to time the ejectors

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Eltinge F. Warner, Publisher Field & Stream 1906-1941
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