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Originally Posted by Run With The Fox
Guess we'll just have to use our imagination, hey Bill?? RWTF
I used the link SKB posted above. Worth a look.


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Hello All,

Today I tested some Cast Lead bullets. I think I've found my hunting load.

With a muzzle velocity averaging 1160 fps, it developes 150 ft/lbs muzzle energy with over 110 ft'lbs remaining at 65 yards. (about max distance for a clean head shot given the accuracy)

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A lovely weapon, complements to both Aaron Little and Buckstix.

The post creates real temptation to commission a small bore double rifle to play with too.


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Originally Posted by old colonel
A lovely weapon, complements to both Aaron Little and Buckstix.

The post creates real temptation to commission a small bore double rifle to play with too.
Hello old colonel,
Thanks for the reply.

Yes, you should do it. Many hours of fun to be had.

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buckstix,
I note that my 25RF REM. #4 gives 1060 fps with the factory 67gr bullet. This load was very well thought of as a small game cartridge, in it's day. Your rifle should be a "hoot" in the squirrel woods.
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Hello Der Ami,
Thanks for the reply.

It should do well on any number of small game animals here in Wisconsin. I also intend to take a whitetail deer with it next fall, albeit at very close range.

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Originally Posted by buckstix
I also intend to take a whitetail deer with it next fall, albeit at very close range.
Please don't try that stunt, buckstix. All you will do is wound the poor animal, to let it go off and suffer a slow death. The very idea is abhorrent.
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Originally Posted by John Roberts
Originally Posted by buckstix
I also intend to take a whitetail deer with it next fall, albeit at very close range.
Please don't try that stunt, buckstix. All you will do is wound the poor animal, to let it go off and suffer a slow death.
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+1 John.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels a whitetail deer should only be harvested when a clean quick kill is the likely result. I have my doubts that anyone could be certain that a 52 grain lead bullet at 1160 fps muzzle velocity can be counted upon to reliably penetrate a deer's skull, and destroy a part of the brain that will provide a quick kill. I have no doubt that it could be done if everything was perfect. But there is really no margin of error or extra energy to help mitigate a less than perfect shot. A small head movement or slight sighting error could turn a shot behind the ear into a broken jaw. Several years ago, I helped a buddy recover a nice big whitetail doe that he had hit with a .338 Win. Magnum. It jumped forward as he pulled the trigger, and the 180 grain bullet went in behind the liver, and into the paunch. We tracked it in the dark for three hours, and he finally finished it with a head shot as I held a spotlight on it. Not sure how legal that was, but it finally ended the deer's suffering.


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That story shows that it is not the cartridge, but rather the "hold". The trick is just don't shoot if the shot isn't right , especially when trying something like that.
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Originally Posted by Der Ami
That story shows that it is not the cartridge, but rather the "hold". The trick is just don't shoot if the shot isn't right , especially when trying something like that.
Mike

Mostly true, Mike, but a .25 ACP is not nor ever will be suitable for deer. Even a duiker.
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