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uh... Where?

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How does one get RST ammo in California?

Can I bring my own?

Non-tox shot a requirement?

Thank you

MIke

p.s. is the following article correct?

https://calwaterfowl.org/navigating-californias-new-ammunition-background-check-system

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Sun Mountain Gun Club,
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https://www.sunmountaingunclub.com/

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p.s. is the following article correct?

Unfortunately, yes. I read the whole thing and did not see any inconsistencies from anything else that I have heard, read, or experienced. Local FFLs have commented/complained about the glitches in the CA DOJ system that make ammo sales a complete PITA. Things like long delays (up to 19 days, I have heard) in response to background checks for folks who are not "in the system," rejections for no apparent reason and no reason available from DOJ, dealers who will not accept the CA Legacy Driver License (not a Real ID, but not a Federal limits apply license either; see the WalMart citation in the article). WalMart is pretty much a non-issue for ammo sales in CA because they seem to have ceased ammo sales in CA. I have not seen a box of shells in a CA Walmart for well over two years, but I have not been to every WalMart.

One thing not mentioned in the article is that (according to two different FFLs that I have used for ammo deliveries from out of state), the transferring FFL must charge sales tax on the price of the ammo at the point of transfer, unless tax was already collected by the vendor. I don't know if that is actually required by the regulations, but that has been the procedure for firearm transfers for years and a lot of FFLs have been thoroughly confused by the differences between a purchase from a dealer and a private party transfer between individuals. Another thing not mentioned is the requirement (according to those same two FFLs) that they must open and inspect each individual box of ammo before they can do the transfer, supposedly to make sure that the contents match the label. This has caused one of these FFLs to simply stop doing transfers. A number of other FFLs and ammo vendors (separate state license for ammo sellers that are not FFLs) that I have done business with have never done transfers since the law took effect, because it is just too much hassle. This plays right into the government's desire to deprive us of our 2A Rights.

Per my conversations with game wardens (those most likely to catch ammo coming in from out of state when you are returning from a hunting trip), an acceptable way to prove that you owned the ammo when you left CA is to take a pic of the ammo in CA, before you leave, with a landmark in the pic. I have an app on my phone that adds a time/date/GPS stamp on each pic, plus the name of the location with current air temp and a thumbnail map. Hard to argue with that, but the app no longer works. Need to find a replacement before next fall. CA sucks.

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Skeetx,

I have never seen RST ammo for sale at retail in California. I buy it directly from RST (when available) and have it shipped to my FFL for transfer. As a California resident that is in the DOJ system, buying ammo is no big deal.
Yes, you can bring your own ammo, all participants have been asked to do so. Non-Toxic ammo is NOT required, that only applies to all hunting. The article you reference is basically correct.

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The event is held at Sun Mountai Gun Club in Coarsegold, Calif. about 30 minutes East of Fresno.

ANYONE WISHING TO SEE THE FULL EVENT PACKET , PLEASE SEND ME A PM WITH YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS AND I WILL SEND IT TO YOU.

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Gee I would have thought the government would have to prove you didn't own the ammo

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Gee I would have thought the government would have to prove you didn't own the ammo

That's because you believe in the U.S. Constitution and a Bill of Rights that says you are innocent until proven guilty.

Unfortunately, Liberal Democrats don't feel the same about the Rights of gun owners.


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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Originally Posted by mc
Gee I would have thought the government would have to prove you didn't own the ammo

Liberal Democrats are only concerned about the Rights of criminals and illegal immigrants. They don't respect the Constitution and the Bill of Rights when it comes to law abiding citizens, and have a special disdain for the Rights of gun owners. Hard to believe that any gun owner would be foolish enough to support them. But they get lots of votes from totally dead people too... not just those who are brain dead.


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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