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I don't see re-proof, just a full regiment of marks with chamber dimensions as well as choke which may put it in the 1st decade of the 20th Century. But for sure pre-1922/1924.
I for one wouldn't mind seeing additional fotos.
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Lambert & Bruyninck or possibly Lhermitte and Bruyninckx (but usually LB not L&B) http://littlegun.be/arme%20belge/artisans%20identifies%20l/a%20lhermitte%20and%20bruyninckx%20gb.htmProved 1910-1921 (no lettre annale) Barrel weight at the time of proof 1.333 Kg = 2.94#. If > 3% less now considered out of proof. Original bore 18.3 mm = .720mm L choke 17.3 mm = .681" = .039" = Full R 17.6 (or 17.8?) = .693" = .027" = Imp. Mod. 70 mm chambers
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Drewbie- if there no specific letter designating the year between 1910-1921, would it not be problematic to exclude the span of years between 1914 and 1918, due to the First World War? I am running the risk of assumption here that the conflict may have, in some manner, changed things in the arms production of France and Belgium. Le Reynard!!
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Salut, https://i.goopics.net/xnpymr.jpgTout seul et mal placé, mais n'est-ce tout de même pas la lettre annale ? Pierre Mounanes est recensé armurier dans les années 1920.
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Merci FAB. Translation: All alone and badly placed, but is that not the year letter? Pierre Mounanes is known as a gun-maker in the 1920's.
Baluch are not Brahui, Brahui are Baluch
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It could be a greek alpha reclining, but that would be 1948. Lower case ' a' would be 1922, but I don't think so. I've never seen a lettre annale in that location nor that size, but maybe the first year of use the controllers didn't quite know the routine
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That position is typically for the mark of mechanic that performed some effort on the tubeset. Regarding German proofmarks, on many non-Sauer longarms, a >>D<< will be found there.
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Clearly pre-1924. Post-24 would have gauge and chamber length in one proofmark, which this gun does not have. Looks to me like another instance of a Paris gunshop importing a Belgian gun. There's no shortage of such examples.
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Anson Pushrod forend clasp Sideclips or Purdey Wings for an additional lockup/structural feature Serbus, Raimey rse
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