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While Tonys book, which was given to me by a forum friend here, is interesting I find it's highest purpose to be mostly an incentive to try gunsmithing tasks I've yet to attempt. Tony was not afraid of making a mistake to learn a new process. IMO Tony did not intend the book to be a step by step guide to doing specific gunsmithing tasks, but rather a chronicle of how he learned to do these things and who he consulted and learned from. It excels at that.

Ed, you should find and read Oscar Gaddy's in depth articles on CCH. It is the finest account of the process I have ever found and, until something is written that equals or exceeds it in usefulness, I will consider it the standard.

Thanks Keith, for the excellent reminder on why it is indeed a chemical process.

The great big ball of water being displaced is because of heat in spite of everthing you said keet take away the heat and there is no reaction.not a chemical reaction thermal influenced reaction

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Ok keet another example, hypothetically I tossed a steel part in a bag with charcoal into water ,,nothing happened but a small splash no heat no reaction even though all the chemicals are present

Everyone is here but Toad.

Prolly at work. Lol.


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Like a blind hog who cannot write or spell, you have stumbled upon the secret ingredient necessary for every chemical reaction in the universe. Heat energy is the magic ingredient. Heat precipitates and accelerates chemical reactions. Without heat, bone charcoal color case hardening would not be possible. Rust bluing would not be possible; neither the rusting, or the conversion of that ferric oxide hydrate (red rust) into ferro-ferric oxide (black oxide) by boiling in water. There's that boiling hot water again... crucial to our chemical reaction... just like it is in bone charcoal case hardening. The rust bluing boiling tank is a relatively slow and even process, which is what we want to get a nice even finish. The violent flash boiling that happens in the case hardening quench tank is extremely rapid and uneven... which is why the colors we seek are also random and uneven. Yep, it's a critical part of the complex chemical reaction that bone charcoal color case hardening depends upon.

Who knew that gunmakers and gunsmiths are so dependent upon chemistry and chemical reactions? Well, I knew that. Ed knew it too. Sorry you don't.

Nothing the Pharmaceutical industry produces would be possible without heat energy. Oil Refineries could place crude oil or petroleum products in a catalytic cracker without heat, and there will be no chemical reaction to break down those long and complex molecular bonds to produce gasoline, kerosene, diesel fuel, asphalt, waxes, and dozens of other byproducts. Mix iron ore, limestone, coke and other metals together in a cold furnace and you will never see the spectacular and violent reaction that turns those chemicals into cast iron, or into the carbon steel we use for shotgun frames and gun barrels. Steel making is nothing but a huge, dirty, and dangerous chemical reaction. Heat energy is responsible for the photons that create light, which are necessary for the chemical reaction known as photosynthesis in green plants. Take away all heat by bringing any combination of chemicals to zero degrees Kelvin (absolute zero), and all chemical reactions stop. Totally. All molecular activity stops in the complete absence of heat energy....

.... kind of like the brain activity you use to try to bring Ed down to your level. Now stop being foolish. And mind your manners. Gladys Kravitz is watching you.

You are still an idiot the you missed the point. failed miserably ,hot steel into cold water makes steam this is what edd saw in tonys video. Like an idiot anti gunner liberal Democrat you rail blindly looking for validation.small man that you are you resort to name calling you are the turd in this bb punch bowl .

Chemical reactions happen at a characteristic reaction rate at a given temperature and chemical concentration. Typically, reaction rates increase with increasing temperature because there is more thermal energy available to reach the activation energy necessary for breaking bonds between atoms...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_reaction

At the proper time and temperature, the crucible is dumped into aerated H2O, a chemical also known as water. This chemical solvent may have some potassium nitrate added, or maybe not. Most practitioners want this quench solvent known as water to be rather cold. The contents of the crucible are typically dumped into the quench as close to the surface as humanly possible, to prevent oxygen from coming in contact with the red hot steel. This little controlled chemical step is done because excess oxygen during that brief instant will cause our desired colors to become dull gray and muted. Of course, dumping the red hot contents into the cold water quench causes a violent reaction where the liquid water is instantly turned to steam. The goal is to keep the carbon based pack in contact with the surface of the steel until the moment it hits the cold water quench. The water is often aerated and/or agitated to attempt to keep the water in contact with the extremely hot steel parts. And the molecular structure of the surface of our carbon infused steel is thusly frozen into a molecular arrangement that causes the pleasing refraction of light that our eyes perceive as Case Hardening Colors. Not seen is the dramatically increased surface hardness...

from keith's post above...shore sounds like a chemical reaction to me...

anyway, back to the topic of this thread on this once fine forum...

dont forget to send that email to oxford ebooks, requesting reactivation of tony's ebook, so we can all see what i saw...those ten years ago...