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Shooting doves over a small tank or farm pond in the evenings was the prefered way to take them in Kansas, back in the day. Birds flying up draws from the small grain along the Kaw River to their roosting timbers, especially junipers, up high would stop along the way to water. They needed clear ground near the water so they could alight without fear of predators. Heavy grass would not do, so a well grazed pasture pond along such a draw was always a great spot. Metal tanks were less desirable, and I never shot over one, but I believe they were used as well, if nothing better was around.


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Are the Ringed Collared Doves the same as those (Streptopelia decaocto) that are now so common in the UK? Thin black partial collar to back of neck tapering so it almost looks like an incision, and one of their calls is a squawk like a very rusty gate hinge.

I first saw one in Cheltenham about 50 years ago, looked it up in my 14 year old copy of A Field Guide to Birds of Britain and Europe and saw that it was a rare migrant from Asia Minor.

I was getting excited and wondering who I should call when I saw 2 or 3 more. I wandered down to W.H. Smith (in those days they stocked a reasonable selection of books) in the Promenade and looked at a recent edition. Their range had spread right across Western Europe and they were by then shown as common in the UK.

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There is not any bag limits or season (always open) on the Ringed Collored dove here in AZ. I heard they came from Texas not England? My grandsons call them Teradactyls because of there call (growl). They cook up OK, we will shoot a 5 gallon bucket full!

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We are driving from So Cal to eastern AZ because Yuma is so damn crowded with CA hunters these days. Makes for a pretty miserable experience on the opener unless you have access to private, posted land. Three days of hunting and about 16 hours of driving, but it's worth it to avoid the crowds. I'll take a .410 double with #8 skeet loads, a 28 of some sort, and a couple of 20s in case it gets windy. Have not seen many Eurasian Collared Doves over the last couple of years, but they are good eats, way better for chili and tacos than mourning doves.

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Originally Posted by AZMike
I heard they came from Texas not England?

They came from the Middle East to the Caribbean islands by boats, then up through Florida and then into the rest of the US. Happened fast.
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Replacement, if you are in Cochise County look us up you can shoot with us.

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Very few in KY-OH so far. Funny thing was they were not counted in the bag limit for several years, then were to be counted and then a few years later not to be counted. Don’t know about this year bag limit. 15 is enough for a meal so I’m good either way. If I want a body count I’ll go to Argentina.

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AZ Mike, thank you for the offer. We'll be a quite a ways southeast of Phoenix, so not too close to Cochise County. One of our guys is driving from Fallon NV, so convincing him to add another 150 miles each way would be a trick. We have been half-joking that the hordes of CA hunters will eventually force us to New Mexico for doves, so maybe we'll connect with you next year as we move farther east.

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There are places to hunt between Yuma and cibola we are going south of the 10 before cibola I live in show low. It's a long drive, if the monsoon comes through it pushes birds south I think mikes is the hot ticket but I'm meeting my son and grandson from california hope everyone has a great and safe opener

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The Eurasian Collared dove is what we refer to as the ringnecked dove. They much prefer to stay around dwellings and other outbuildings, much more so than a mourning dove. They do fly slower, but dress the palate in much the same way as a mourning. On a dove shoot they are considered "bonus birds", as they don't count against your limit of mourning doves. They are easy to miss if you shoot a lot of mourning doves, as their slower flight will cause you to over lead them, when one appears suddenly. They have a good deal more meat on the breast than a mourning dove. I can only imagine how much fun it must be to shoot them out west, around dairies and feedlots, as there is no limit on them anywhere that I am aware of.

Come to think of it, there are three species of doves that show up on most of our shoots. The other one not mentioned in this thread is the Common Ground Dove. We call them the $1000 dove, because it is speculated that's how much the fine will cost you if you are caught with a dead one in your bag. Though I don't really know how much the fine would be, they are cute little fellows that never seem to fly much over 20 ft. high. I see them in the fields we tend all the time, usually in small groups of two or three. Tiny little things.

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