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Yeh, we're on the same page, LG. Actually, I would have liked to hear a bit more about the "Newton" Flues. Guess he was just tempting me with the article or book he'll never write. As for sideclips, I had a Noble Arms 420 which had them and even on this sorry excuse for everything else, they had been effectively sharpened.
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Lowell I shot 50 rounds of Sporting Clays...a round of Skeet and 25 wObble trap and the Purdy never bit me.
If the 'bites' from Side Clips are not just 'urban legend'....they must be caused by operator malfunction ?
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HopelessjOe,
The injuries from sideclips are not 'urban myth' they are real.Normally suffered by 'Loaders' on double gun days, when hastily reloading to keep up with M'Lord who is often struck with the driven guns affliction 'Greed'.
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I guess that's how Lowell got cut.
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1. Anyone who is injured, however slightly, by sideclips has no idea how to load or unload a shotgun. It's simply a non-issue.
2. I shot, this very afternoon, a Francotte with sideclips. It is loose in the lateral plane! This gun has two underbolts, and a Greener. If the intention of the sideclips was to prevent lateral play, it failed miserably in this case.
3. Pigeons used in shooting events are the property of the shooters to do with as they please. If you have a problem with private property rights, move to Cuba.
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I glad I ain't Anyone!
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I have to agree with Mr. John and have always held that the clips were used to insure there was no side play to the bbl's. There might have been a bit of artistis license involved with the bbl fitter/filler too. Anything to increase sales ----- Ken
Last edited by Ken Hurst; 07/22/07 06:12 PM.
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I've always thought sideclips were and elegant addition to a gun that allowed the maker to show off a little bit. It takes quite a bit of talent to get them perfect and I think they add a bit of uniqueness to a gun.
I've shot my sideclipped gun at the one-man flurry at the Upper Peninsula Side by Side Classic (with a loader) and at several others where I loaded it myself - never been "bit" nor was the fellow loading for me. I loaned it out to another shooter and loaded for them and had no problems either.
I've always heard, but never verified, that sideclips were originally added to provide greater action strength side to side.
Last edited by Geoff Roznak; 07/22/07 06:57 PM.
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Does it matter if side clips are functional? They look good, they add appeal to any gun and, unless, you are incompetent (lowell?), they don't hurt a thing. I've got a Merk with them and I like them just fine. I don't have them on my english guns, and that is a small negative on the aesthetic scale, but I'll live.
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Concur with most of what's been written re intended to prevent lateral movement, but are more of a marketing/showoff ploy.
The ones I've seen tend to have been on pigeon and 'fowling guns - guns built to throw heavier charges which may loosen a gun sooner - but I did handle a wonderful pair of Woodward "automatic" patent game guns c1888 some weeks ago which were sideclipped (incidentally: this pair are the kind of fabled guns we don't get to hear much of here; the kind Lowell and others have mused about eg "Here is the pair of Mountbatten Purdeys I bought on the weekend"...). The round "point" of the clip was not sharp, and stood wider than the barrel, though the surfaces did mate cleanly. I personally find the plain, flat, vertical breech face offers much cleaner, more elegant lines - especially with Woodward's arcaded fences! Less is more...
I can't see how they'd be a potential injury issue; if your finger or thumb are anywhere near there on closing (why? operator error) then it's going to be pinched against the standing breech anyway (trust me...!). There are myriad silly ways to injure yourself cycling any gun!
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