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#621366 10/30/22 02:37 PM
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I note that the Darne R-16 in 10 gauge 2-7/8 chambers, restocked and with choke tubes, that I sold earlier this year is now for sale on gunbroker.com. Have no interest in the transaction, but flag it for those who might find such a gun of interest.

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Tim:

Two questions about your 10 gauge:

Did you have the metal refinished? I’ve never seen a blue action on a Darne.

We’re you able to determine when it was made? I ask only because I have a lower grade 10 gauge from the pre-WWI rea and wondered whether they were from the same era. Mine has a case colored receiver and is a lower grade, but is otherwise very similar to yours, down to the weight of 7 pounds 3 ounces.

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The R16, Rem, has new barrels done by Darne and with St Etienne superior proof. Color was always as you see it. Believe it is closer to WWII than to WWI. But special production items as the SPC in the s/n denotes, are hard to date.

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If I remember correctly….The new barrels by Darne (Herve) were a disaster. Took Merrington & Briley plus a lot of sweet mulah to get them right.

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Just the opposite, in fact. Briley miscut the barrels to install choke tubes but handsomely sent the gun to Kirk for new barrels (regret error above) then I sent gun to Darne for restock and submission to the proofhouse.

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If I had one of my favorite guns rebarrelled, I would remember who did it. Oh well.

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In the 1973 Gun Digest, John Amber wrote a piece about Darne shotguns, and his trip to St. Etienne to order a new V grade gun. In the article there is a picture of a V grade 28 gauge, and an R grade 10 gauge, featuring the same black oxide finish. It is not blued, and does not match the barrels. There is a subtle hint that this is an older photo, as the 10 gauge cartridges shown are Eley, and packaged differently than they would have been in 1973. Amber would have had the resources to create a composite photo with the Darne 10, and Eley ammunition, and the 28 with 1960s vintage American 28 gauge ammunition. This is a photo of the ten and a V 28 gauge from the article:

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Paul Bruchet began his career with Darne in 1964. By the time of Amber’s trip, he was the supervisor on the V Gun line. It is almost a certainty that the two men met, either on that trip, or, a later trip that happened in 1975.
Fast forward to 1995, when I was in St. Etienne, I asked Paul Bruchet, Herve’ Bruchet, and Pierre Boutet, a longtime action fitter about ten gauge Darne guns. They looked at me like I asked about ghosts. None of them had ever seen a 10 gauge Darne. Paul doubted they were produced regularly, and suspected that a few out workers had likely produced several, under the table, so to speak, and then walked away from the idea. None of them, nearly 100 years experience at the bench at Darne, had ever seen a 10.

Over the years, I’ve come to know of the existence of perhaps half a dozen 10 gauge Darne guns. Several appear to be very old, case colored specimens, a few are the engraved, but, black oxide finished R model sliding breech versions, and a single gun in England is a magnificent V22 grade 10 gauge, finished exactly as a V22 should be, with 2 7/8ths chambers.

I have never handled or fired a Darne 10.

Best,
Ted


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