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You guys don't get out in the field much.

Pardon me while I laugh at "sustained lead". On a grouse....


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Originally Posted by John Roberts
Well, fwiw, there are light guns and ridiculously light guns. A 6 lb gun is one thing, but a 4.25 lb gun is more like a novelty than a tool, afaic. I cannot imagine ever learning to hit anything flying with it. ‘Course, if you’re getting off two shots before shouldering it…
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Obviously (or not) that's not the norm. But has happened, especially getting off one trigger.

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I'm not talking prairie hunting where you don't a have wall of honeysuckle or a cedar thicket to navigate just to flush a single quail that your dog has been on point for a dogs lifetime it seems for them. Or the flush of a grouse in a thicket of saplings no bigger than two fingers just to point at the hole you think you might intercept the bird with shot. No time for "sustained lead". If you've hunting ruffed grouse where I've hunted and tried "swing and follow" you'd walk out of the woods with dented barrels.

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Shoot what you like.

“Fast to start, fast to stop.”

“Poke and hope.”

The numbers on ruffed grouse off the flush don’t lie.

A fast handling gun yields greater first shot kill percentages.
Snaking your way through a thicket, one handing your shotgun, is normal and common.

Again, hunting individually, or in pairs, over pointing dogs.

Now that leaf drop is over, the birds are hunkered under stuff, and the woods seem more open.
You can use a longer, heavier gun, and more target style techniques than earlier.

Run what you like.
Getting tangled up is part of the fun.

I always lament the annual retirement of my hunting shorts.


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I presume you have already rejected the Benelli 3” 28ga semi auto?
Perfect for your late season, non tox, open country, shooting.

If focusing purely on O/U, look for a 28ga w/ alloy receiver, and 28” monoblock barrels.

Yildiz comes to mind.

Dickinson will be another option.

Presuming you want new, under $5k, for your test, with modern ammunition necessity.

As for the earlier question, why carry a 28 that is as fat as a 20?


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Look at the Rizzini BR110 in 28 gauge. 6.1 pounds in all-steel, 5.7 pounds in alloy frame. Around $2K. The steel BR110 is available in multiple barrel lengths up to 32" on special order (I"m sure that would take a small eternity), the Light Luxe version (alloy) only in 28".

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Originally Posted by BrentD
What you cannot imagine, plenty of others have accomplished.
More like attempted.
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Originally Posted by BrentD
You guys don't get out in the field much.

Evidently you assume the only wild bird hunting in thick stuff is in the grouse woods, and that we hunt woodcock down here in cow pastures or soybean fields.

But, I guess that's understandable coming from a professor who is so egotistical to believe he saw the very first coyote to set foot on all 310 square miles (198,000 acres) of SRS, when we had been trapping them for several years just two miles away.


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Originally Posted by BrentD
You guys don't get out in the field much.

Pardon me while I laugh at "sustained lead". On a grouse....
Go ahead and laugh if you want Brent. I am a grouse hunter and I can assure you there are scenarios in the grouse coverts where an opportunity for sustained lead presents itself (e.g., an old apple orchard or an abandoned farm field) just like there are occasional opportunities where a 3rd shot is possible (where’s my AutoMaybe), although rare.


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I have "classic" 28-gauges doubles that weigh in the five to five and three quarter pound range, but I shoot a couple of modern 28-gauges in the six and a quarter pound range much better and there is the problem. I have 20-gauges that weigh in the six and a quarter pound range from my 1913 vintage Fox A-grade to my Launch Edition RBL and the 20-gauge can handle a wider variety of loads. So, what is the point of the 28-gauge?

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