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#622211 11/17/22 11:07 PM
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Came across this German drilling. 12x12x8,57mm. Proofed 12.33

Not familiar with the maker. On rib the engraving:

Gerb. Praunsmandtl Ingolstadt

Any info welcome. Proofed 12.33

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GEBR. PRAUNSMANDTL, INGOLSTADT
Please display some pics it may help.

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On the rib
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Barrel flats
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Rifle markings
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Side view
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Unique feature is the cocking for the Rifle Barrel. Large thumb slide on top strap when pushed forward cocks the rifle hammer and flips up the rear rifle sight blade.

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Gebrüder Praunsmändtl in Ingolstadt(Bavaria). Emil Praunsmändtl was probably one of the principles.


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Wilhlem Kelber contributed effort & it looks as if there was a Reproof effort in 1933.

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The name on the rib is likely the marketer rather than the maker. It would have been made for "the trade" by one of the Suhl makers and sold to them for marketing to the end user. The "made for the trade" guns were often marked with the marketer's name, but not always. The shot barrels show the crown R "repair" proof, but the "repair" is not obvious from what can be seen. If there is a "70' stamped on the extractor or somewhere near the circle 12 that would indicate the shot chambers were legenthened from 2 5/8" to 2 3/4" and reproofed.
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More photos

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Rifle cocker and blade sight raiser
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Rifle blade with rib insert
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The 12.33 would be the date of reproof?

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Very nice drilling with usable caliber. Congratulations

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Thank you. I cannot find any marking indicating 70mm for chamber length. My chamber gauge indicates 2 5/8. Do you know when the German proof house started stamping 'Nitro' on these arms?

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