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This, after I posted an example of EXACTLY what I was talking about? Really? Scientific method much?

Hey, word has it there is a recently retired professor that believes there isn’t enough grit for ruffed grouse to eat. Bet he wears lederhosen when he hunts.

In northern Minnesota.

We should commission a study to find out!



Best,
Ted

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Probably climate change. Or, you know, Trump.

You'd be funny if not so pathetic. You said if he bought a Merkel, he would HAVE to live with a cheek piece, swivels, and chickens. I am still looking for you to show me where those features are on my Model 8. You said what you said. Maybe you ought to rethink what you don't know you don't know about science.

But yet you will persist, because you just can't help yourself.

Why don't you do something useful and check your Darnes for regulation. Or actually go hunting. Don't forget your "snap caps". Good grief.

Sub par Germanic engraving, cheekpieces and swivels aren’t a thing, because they aren’t on your gun.

Got it.

Maybe you should get out more . Just a thought.

Best,
Ted

I'm out pretty much every day, Ted. Maybe you need to work on your comprehension of the English language, what you don't know you don't know (about everything), and Merkel Model 8s. While you do that, I'll go chase a pheasant or two.

Can not understand why a 26”. Everybody knows the 28” is more in demand. When I was stocking Arrieta, Aya, Fair, my inventory almost exclusively 28” and above. The people at New England Custom guns are smart folks so can not understand this school of thought.


John Boyd
Quality Arms

As I understood it,for many years Ugartechea were using whatever parts were in the old factory which dictated their inventory ,perhaps the new operation is working from the same stock of actions,barrels etc,hence the lack of options.

Some years ago a well known dealer tried to sell my wife a 26 inch barreled 20 gauge. She would have none of it and told him that the barrels were too short. By her choice both of her guns bought after that dealer's attempted sale have 28 inch barrels.

I just came across this photo from the new Armas Ugartechea Facebook site, it looks like the boxlock being described in the NECG advertisement? New Ugartechea Boxlock (from their November 18, 2023 post). It appears to be the same shotgun as the previous AOC/SG model less the concave rib and ejectors? If I remember correctly, this shotgun with ejectors was selling for approx. $4000 back in 2012/2014.

Also, their Maura Special boxlock model in 410 gauge (from their April 5, 2021 post). Ugartechea Maura Special

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TC

Dodecagon barrels?

I think it's maybe just on the breech end of the barrels. It's hard to tell even when looking at the full length photo. I like the Ugartechea Maura model, however the one that I handled back in 2010 had the normal barrels, it was identical to the AOC/SG boxlock. Maybe the Dodecagon style barrels are what makes it the Special.

I would sure like to see a price listing for the new Ugartechea shotguns. At $5000 for a new boxlock, in my mind they are on the cusp of being unaffordable. The dealer I bought from in the past hasn't brought any Ugartecheas in yet. Maybe too expensive now to stock other than for just taking custom orders. It would be nice to handle a new one for a feel on quality.

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TC