doublegunshop.com - home Forums General Discussion DoubleGun BBS @ doublegunshop.com OT-Stove pipe in a Remington 241.

Also make sure that the ammo isn't cold.

I had CCI Mini Mags not function well in 20-30 degree weather and leaving the magazines in my pocket until right before I shot the gun solved the problem

Well, good points. My range is heated, so, cold weather isn’t a factor. The last batch of ammunition through the old girl was indeed CCI mini mag solid points, I have a few thousand rounds of that in the orange plastic boxes. The last box of CCI ammunition I bought was a fifty round pack of some stuff that was hollow point, with silver cases, that I shot a squirrel head on with, and it literally blew him up, rendering a nice, fat, boar unfit for the table. This was about 45 seasons ago, and a few years back,while digging in my stuff, I found the box, blue plastic, with 50 rounds, missing one bullet. Never shot another round.
The magazine on the 241 is tubular, and in the stock. If it is cold out, the ammunition will be cold, too. The 581 has a clip, but, is a lefty gun, bought when I still fit that profile. I’m right handed, today. Not by choice, you understand, by circumstance.
The 552 Remington semi auto is the bomb, eats anything, and is just as accurate as the 581. I have to reverse the safety back to right hand use, but, that gun with the deflector on the side was pretty left hand friendly. In my little rimfire world, it is the standard by which all others are judged. I preferred using shorts for hunting, and haunted garage sales as a kid, buying long and short ammunition that nobody wanted, to feed to the 552. My friends all owned guns that only used LR, and were perpetually short, while I was swimming in several different types. I was the first kid to get glasses in the neighborhood (3rd grade) and the first kid to buy a scope, a Weaver K4 1”, that my Dad recommended. His guns all had 1.5-4 power optics, but, that was more than tween me could afford. The K4 is still there. I remember a sunny afternoon at an outdoor range, with a few friends and their 22s, when Dad sat down with that setup and shot a ten yard group that you could cover with a dime at the 50 yard mark.I lost most of my interest in his 241, at that point.
My kid loves that 241. His only connection to Grandpa, who died when he was three, are some of his things that were left to him, and various pictures of him. My interest, at this point, is seeing it run trouble free, so the kid and I have some fun with it.
They, my Dad and my boy, would have really clicked about now.

Wasn’t to be.

Thanks.

Best,
Ted

Ted,
I'm sorry your son lost his Grandpa and your Dad didn't have a chance to see his grandson grow up. My dad said one grandbaby was worth three of his own children.
Mike

Spent about a half hour putting ammunition down range with the old gun today. No improvement that I could tell, it is very infrequent however. I went by myself to avoid explaining to the boy why his old man didn’t hit it out of the park the first try.

Jack first has new ejectors and springs for the gun. I’m going to give that a try.

Best,
Ted

I guess 70 years of shooting .22s and owning dozens of .22 rifles doesn't educate me in "stovepipe". Yes, I have read the entire thread. Please explain.

eightbore, I think most any 22LRs, and particularly autoloaders can have all manner of jams. The picture in my mind is the bolt partly closed on a spent shell, sticking out of the ejection port?

Ted, just a thought, but has the edge of the chamber picked up dry firing damage. Sorry if it's already been gone over, but that could throw off cycle timing enough to affect reliability that the rifle once had. Good luck with it.

Stovepipe jam:



Craig, way back at the beginning, I mentioned that a cartridge drops right in and right back out of the chamber, indicating the burr wasn’t an issue that I could tell. Good tip, but, at the range a fellow told me a 241 wasn’t affected by dry firing, first time I ever heard that. Out of habit, I can’t see myself starting to dry fire the gun, or, any .22 rimfire gun. I could probably add 5mm rim fire to that as well, but, no longer own one or any ammunition for it.

Thanks for the tip. I’m going to order a few parts, tonight.

Best,
Ted

Hey Ted, yup, way back on your first post. Worthy project, thanks for the updates.

20-30 deg F is not cold- I'm calling BS. Some of these old semi-auto guns just like a particular brand of ammo which may or may not be available in this day and time. What did Grand Pa shoot? Suspect whatever was on the shelf but most likely standard velocity ammo. You may need to buy various brands and try them- they are available online- or maybe get a GS to make you a slightly stronger spring to accommodate for the HV ammo. Save the CCI for the manual extractor and/or modern guns. That said maybe some worn parts if shot 10's of thousands of rounds. I would love to know exactly how many rounds of .22 's I have shot. You may be on the right track with some parts exchange.

For what it is worth, I’m pretty sure I noted my range is heated. Someone else had a problem with cold .22 ammunition.


Best,
Ted