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I am looking at buying a couple Philadelphia Arms Fox, pre Fox guns. Both look to be high condition guns. Are there any mechanical issues I need to be on the lookout for? How similar are they to the AH Fox guns? I am filling the holes in my American double lineup.
If I could go back I time it might be nice to watch the Baltimore Fox, the Philadelphia Fox, then the A H Fox and later Savage Fox connections or evolutions.
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Check to see they aren’t striker bound. Not the end of the world if they are, just more money to throw at them. Loose ribs, cracked stocks, pitted bores, you know the drill.
Good luck.
Best, Ted
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The Philly Fox is a combination of Parker and Fox. I have one right now that I am stocking and I am amazed that the components are a pefect match of each gun.
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While the Philadelphia Arms Fox is profiled like a Parker Bros. and uses a forearm that is really like Charles King's Parker forearm the bolting is an Alexander T. Brown type rotary bolt -- and the lock mechanism is somewhat similar to the Ithaca NID but without the separate firing pins --
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Bubba lives. Guess that Philadelphia Arms ran out of beads at some point and some smart Bubba used a screw instead. Factory original I am told. Looks like they peened the bead a couple time trying to keep it in place and this was the last fix. Otherwise this gun is in decent shape for a shooter that it is.
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Bubba lives. Guess that Philadelphia Arms ran out of beads at some point and some smart Bubba used a screw instead. Factory original I am told. Looks like they peened the bead a couple time trying to keep it in place and this was the last fix. Otherwise this gun is in decent shape for a shooter that it is. I've seen worse. Bought my first Pin Gun (Early Fox Sterlingworth) and it arrived with a woodscrew in the forearm on the bottom side. Couldn't get the forearm off (it was shipped put together). Took it to my local smith who knew a bit about Foxes. With me watching he removed the screw and then pried the forearm off. Inside the barrel lug was totally gone and instead what was there was JB Weld applied to the bottom of the barrels. The wood screw was screwed into the JB Weld. It fell under the 3 day inspection period so I shipped it back. Was sold by a pawnshop in Florida.
foxes rule
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The least they could have done was time the screw slot. Overall the gun is good with no screws buggered up but they have been turned. Function is all I need. I just find a screw for a front bead so funny.
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Well,at least they didn't j b weld a wood screw on for a bead
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