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It appears that George Lander passed on July 14th, 2023. Anyone confirm that?

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

He hadn’t been here in a long time. He made mention of selling his collection due to age some time ago.


Godspeed.

Best,
Ted

Here's a link to George's obituary: https://woodridgefuneralhome.com/tribute/details/75431/George-Lander-Jr/obituary.html

George's 4 bore Reilly 15625 (1869) sold 3 years ago for $10,000. He had been asking in excess of $50,000.
https://doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=595036&page=1


Here is the DGS line about the gun:
https://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=550059

And here is the 2009 thread when George L. bought it...There are some pretty vicious comments on that line.
https://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=181400&page=1

I was always wondering about George's health since we hadn't heard from him for awhile...he began selling off his collection about 5 years ago after the death of his daughter. I never met him but our internet exchanges were always civil and educational. RIP Sir.

After his daughter's death, he was never the same again....


I thought his 1st name to be odd & maybe began with a >>V<<, but I could not remember.

I was just curious if the Obit was our George Lander, closer friend of Jim Kelly.

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

Sorry to hear of George's passing. I met him many years ago at an auction in Columbia, SC. I will remember him as the first one to publicly out Bo Whoop. He had seen it in Jim Kelley's shop in Darlington while it was there for restocking (butt only). Poor George was "crucified" for suggesting that the "hallowed" Bo Whoop had been found. However, it was true and I was able to see it a couple years later before the owner in Savannah sent it to Julia's for auction.

RIP, Mr. Lander

Sad to hear that another member of our community has passed.

I have read (and I see in one case from my previous comment re-read) with interest the attached threads.

The gun appears to have started life as an 8 bore pinfire shotgun (maybe with rifle barrels since lost?) with a 7 bore proof diameter.

It has then been converted to a paper cased 4 bore.

It seems to have been assumed that it was never re-Proofed BUT I notice that the bore size of 7 is stamped twice on each barrel. That is most unusual.

Does that indicate that it went back to the Proof house on conversion and they simply re stamped the bore size to indicate re-Proof?

If it was done prior to 1875, and that is quite likely given the obsolescence of pin-fire cartridges chamber sizes and lengths were not then marked at Proof and I believe the Re-Proof mark was a later introduction

I never met George, but corresponded with him about Bo Whoop and other subjects. I took his side early on when everyone else was accusing him of fraud. He showed them. His pricing of his collection guaranteed that he would die with most of his guns. I may follow his lead. At 78, I'm still buying more than selling.

What I remember is the time he listed page after page of guns for sale here. He must have bought a container full of English (mostly) clunkers. I don't think he sold many. Sorry to see that he has passed...Geo

It was a sad time indeed when he lost his daughter. As commented, he was never the same. RIP. Gil