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Originally Posted by John Roberts
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The next thing I noticed-- 50 Birds is a lot of targets to be shooting at. A lot of guys would be tired after 50 targets.
Are you serious? 50 targets are nothing for most of us. Just getting warmed up.
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You're probably a lot younger than I am. And 50 targets for a lot of women is quite a bit since she is a new shooter. I just shot 50 targets at sporting clays Friday and barely made it back to the clubhouse. Ha-ha!! I realized why a lot of guys bring their Gators. Even so, I remember 20 years ago, 2-3 rounds of trap or skeet and most of the guys were ready to quit and have a beer. When it's 90* out you can get pretty tired pretty quick.

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Another thing to remember- If she is shooting trap, she won't break anything with a 20 gauge. A lot of times people think a 20 gauge is the answer. She will probably take less of a beating with a 12 gauge. If a person doesn't break anything, they'll get discouraged really quick and want to quit. There are a lot of things involved to consider.

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I load 5/8 oz 20s for kids. Not just kids.......never ran a straight with a 5# 3 oz AS20EL till it was fed 5/8 oz weenies.

For that payload Promo/Red Dot/Clays works fine, GD would also work. CF Rem or WW hull, CB mint, puffed rice after shot drop. Needless to say, they don't cycle autos.

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Originally Posted by Nitrah
well first thanks for load tips. In our defense I would say we haven't gone to the step to get the gun really adjusted for her fit. I usually shoot 100 while she shoots 50 but she came along to a SxS shoot and it called for 100 clays. By 75 she was losing interest, I think from not good (consistent) gun mount, hot day and poor gun fit. She has a health issue which is worse in the heat, so it was a combination of factors.

That makes it much easier to understand, Jeff. All those factors can "pile up" and cause shooting to be uncomfortable in a short while. Hope y'all work it out for the best.


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AA hull
cb1075-20 wad
Cheddite 209 primer
20/28 powder
13.8 charge
11/16oz shot
1202 fps
6950 psi

I had these tested by Tom A for a damascus 20ga Flues I use to shoot..

Hope this helps.


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You still haven't said what you are shooting. Trap? Skeet? Sporting clays? 5 stand? The event that you are shooting and the gun and load you choose makes all the difference in the world. And a 20 gauge won't work on all of these. Good luck.

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Originally Posted by Jimmy W
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The next thing I noticed-- 50 Birds is a lot of targets to be shooting at. A lot of guys would be tired after 50 targets.
Are you serious? 50 targets are nothing for most of us. Just getting warmed up.
JR
You're probably a lot younger than I am.
Fwiw, I'm 72.
JR


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We shoot sporting, walk the course. I started her with a youth model 1100 in 20 ga, but due to my own prejudices switched her to first a 20 skb sxs and then 20 O/U that previous owners had shorted stock. The fit is not awful but pitch probably needs adjustment. She pre mounts the gun but isn't always consistent and it only takes one of two face slaps from not having shouldered it right to make her think she would rather be playing pickleball, indoors. I am on the way to 71 and she is a few years behind me. The 20 ga press should be here tomorrow and hopefully I'll have lighter loads ready for the Vintager event , I appreciate all the feedback and info.


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When my wife first started shooting I loaded her 20 gauge 3/4 ounce at about 1150 fps to minimize recoil. After she had been shooting for a while I goofed and didn't bring enough cartridges for her so we had to buy factory 7/8 ounce at 1200 fps. The recoil did not bother her so since then she has shot 7/8 ounce at 1200/1210. She's 80 years old and 10 days ago shot a round of 100 sporting clays without issue and she'll shoot more than that at the Vintage Gunners Cup the week after next.

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Nitrah, check your PM's.

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