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Well, if your gun is that new, how come I can shoot steel shot through my 686 Beretta that I bought in 2000, with an I/M barrel (choke tubes) or my Browning Citori which is probably that old, and everyone on here said I can shoot steel shot without damaging the barrels. But you can't? That's what I couldn't figure out. Oh well. Ha-ha!

The problem is that the Kent Bismuth in Canada is $91 per box. That's for the 2 3/4 inch, 1 1/16 ounce upland loads.

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As far as I am concerned, the biggest problem is that it is just too hot. For some reason, I have 2 boxes of 1.25 oz Upland loads of #5s. I don't know how I'm going to get rid of them, but it won't be shooting them.

Oh well, be careful. I just figured that if a light steel load of shot is adequate enough to break clay targets without damaging my guns, I figured it would kill a bird. I guess I'll have to check the steel loads I shoot more. Thanks for the info guys. Good luck.

Thanks for the heads up guys. The last thing I want to do is spend a $1000 on a case of Bismuth cartridges that I find I can't use.

Kent Bismuth Upland Cartridges

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If you reload, I'd be happy to suggest recipes that you can check out. I'm shooting Boss Bismuth with fiber wads, this year, but normally I use home rolleds with Longshot powder and Rotometals Bi/Sn #5s for pheasants. They work really well.

I would never be able to find supplies around here like that to reload with. Since lack of bird hunting, most people around here only hunt released birds. Mainly rabbits or squirrels. For that reason, I am lucky just to find premade loads with #5 or #6 lead shot for birds because stores in my area don't provide them. If there is not water around, do you have to use that type of a load to hunt with? Or do you load that type of a load just for the enjoyment of it? If you do, that sounds like fun, but almost impossible for me. There are plenty of clay target reloading supplies, but no hunting- reloading supplies like bismuth or fiber wads. Thanks

I'll assume you are talking to me. If you can type messages on this forum, you can mail order your supplies. Even though there are reloading supplies sold at the local gun shop a mile away and at many other gunshops, I rarely buy from them. They can be hideously over priced.

Nontox loads (ie, Bismuth for me) are required for all waterfowl. That's a federal thing. They are only required for upland where special federal dollars were used to purchase the property (WPA, is one example), or where a local county (such as the one I live in) requires it for land they regulate, or on private property where the landowner requires it. Yesterday, I hunted 3 different properties for pheasants and need Bismuth on one of them. As a result, there is a lot of shuffling of loads in and out of my vest at each place we hunted. It is a small hassle.

Yes, I was asking you, BrentD. I couldn't repeat more than three quotes. Sorry.......... The places around here are state owned where they release birds. And other than released birds, there aren't many pheasants, grouse or other type of bird species in my state that I know of. Unless it is on private land........... When I go on vacation in Florida, there is a trap range about 3 miles from me. There is a large hill/backstop behind the area where you shoot. There is a lake on the other side of that hill and you can't shoot over that hill or you will be banned from going there. They have been sued at least a dozen times (bogus lawsuits that they have never lost). When I first went there, they showed me a movie of why I couldn't shoot over that hill and they took my drivers license info- that way if they ban you from going there, they look up your name and you can never shoot there again. When you get a squad to shoot trap, the puller walks up and down behind you and you can't shoot until he tells you to. That way he can watch to see if your shot goes over that hill. You have to buy their steel shot that they sell at that club. No lead and no reloads. I have since found a better place to shoot where they insist on using lead shot and I can use my own reloads. It is a little farther away, about 30 miles, but a lot better club. It is really a hassle to hunt and shoot sometimes.

Jimmy, you would find Fly Over Country much more friendly and accomodating. We have birds, friendly trap ranges, and a little more space though occasionally someone lands a bullet on someone else's house.