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TRGTL127 Pressures and Francotte Forcing Cones #642377 02/13/24 11:43 AM
Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 91 Likes: 2 Maine vam5067 OP Sidelock
OP vam5067 Sidelock Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 91 Likes: 2 Maine	Anyone shoot Winchester's Super Target or budget AA? Contemplating them in my Francotte.

Re: TRGTL127 Pressures and Francotte Forcing Cones vam5067 #642470 02/14/24 03:44 PM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,427 Likes: 315 AZ but dreaming of KS Drew Hause Sidelock
Drew Hause Sidelock Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,427 Likes: 315 AZ but dreaming of KS	This is old data, obviously things change, and no U.S. ammo maker is sharing pressures for their loads Super-Target 1 oz. TRGTL12 was 10,440 psi Sorry if I missed it, but is your Francotte a Pigeon gun? Game gun? Weight? What is the DOM? https://sites.google.com/a/damascusknowledge.com/www/home
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Re: TRGTL127 Pressures and Francotte Forcing Cones Drew Hause #642536 02/15/24 11:42 AM
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OP vam5067 Sidelock Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 91 Likes: 2 Maine	Thank you Drew. I'm sure the pressure hasn't come down so I'll avoid them and opt for the AA version or the LNLR load moving at 980fps. The Francotte is most definitely a game gun, 12 bore and 26" barrels at 6lbs. Expand on DOM? Barrel Wall Thickness is greater than .025".

Re: TRGTL127 Pressures and Francotte Forcing Cones vam5067 #642538 02/15/24 12:07 PM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,427 Likes: 315 AZ but dreaming of KS Drew Hause Sidelock
Drew Hause Sidelock Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,427 Likes: 315 AZ but dreaming of KS	If made post-1921 it will carry a date code, usually at the top (muzzle end) of the proof marks on the barrel flats Are the chambers 2 3/4"? B&P Comp One 1 oz. @ 6500 psi are great shells. https://sites.google.com/a/damascusknowledge.com/www/home
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Re: TRGTL127 Pressures and Francotte Forcing Cones Drew Hause #642539 02/15/24 12:13 PM
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OP vam5067 Sidelock Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 91 Likes: 2 Maine	I'm not seeing a post-1921 date stamp on the barrel flats which doesn't surprise me. Serial number is 19825 though. I'll check out those B&Ps; already have a flat of Gambore 2.5" shells just don't want to pay $18/box.

Re: TRGTL127 Pressures and Francotte Forcing Cones vam5067 #642540 02/15/24 12:20 PM
Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 6,487 Likes: 394 Ontario, Canada canvasback Sidelock
canvasback Sidelock Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 6,487 Likes: 394 Ontario, Canada	Originally Posted by vam5067 I'm not seeing a post-1921 date stamp on the barrel flats which doesn't surprise me. Serial number is 19825 though. I'll check out those B&Ps; already have a flat of Gambore 2.5" shells just don't want to pay $18/box. Any idea of the grade of gun? Or the level of embellishment? Dating via serial number can be a bit tricky as they had different runs of serial numbers somewhat depending on grade. The info I have puts DOM at either the early to mid 1890s or right around 1940. The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
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Re: TRGTL127 Pressures and Francotte Forcing Cones canvasback #642541 02/15/24 12:32 PM
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OP vam5067 Sidelock Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 91 Likes: 2 Maine	Not sure of grade but it's nicely embellished with a pretty piece of wood. Most likely the 1890s version as it has beautifully rebrowned, damascus barrels.

Re: TRGTL127 Pressures and Francotte Forcing Cones Drew Hause #642542 02/15/24 12:33 PM
Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 91 Likes: 2 Maine vam5067 OP Sidelock
OP vam5067 Sidelock Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 91 Likes: 2 Maine	Tough hunting out there for ammo. Everyone is currently out of stock for the B&P Comp One

Re: TRGTL127 Pressures and Francotte Forcing Cones vam5067 #642545 02/15/24 01:26 PM
Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 6,487 Likes: 394 Ontario, Canada canvasback Sidelock
canvasback Sidelock Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 6,487 Likes: 394 Ontario, Canada	Well if it were my gun, I would only use stated low pressure, relatively light rounds in it. Not that worried about the barrels....more the effect of recoil on the action and the wood over time. Unless they have been previously lengthened, the chambers are most likely set up for 2 1/2" rounds, not 2 3/4" rounds. Last edited by canvasback; 02/15/24 04:04 PM. The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
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Re: TRGTL127 Pressures and Francotte Forcing Cones vam5067 #642551 02/15/24 03:19 PM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,427 Likes: 315 AZ but dreaming of KS Drew Hause Sidelock
Drew Hause Sidelock Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,427 Likes: 315 AZ but dreaming of KS	The 7/8 oz. load is still listed as In Stock https://www.natchezss.com/competiti...medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=161799 I just ordered 3 cases https://battlehawkarmory.com/product/12-gauge-2-3-4-7-8oz-9-250-case https://sites.google.com/a/damascusknowledge.com/www/home

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