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We cannot shoot feral hogs in Colorado. The reasoning is that if you could, sportsmen would likely attempt to grow the population to increase opportunity. We have very strict rules about releasing non-native animals in Colorado, for a good reason I believe, we want to ensure the health of our native wildlife. Seems like sound game management to me. You honestly believe that sportsman, or, anybody, that finds himself on the wrong end of feral pigs would want to increase their population? What the hell would cause ANYBODY to think that? Because hunters have a pretty solid track record of introducing pigs (and other species) where they do not belong, just so they can hunt them. Like that pheasant in your photo?
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....Because hunters have a pretty solid track record of introducing pigs (and other species) where they do not belong, just so they can hunt them. Hmmm, so hunters don't just hunt. So, what happened here, did you write a foregone conclusion grant. Too funny mr non native pheasant hunting prof.
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We cannot shoot feral hogs in Colorado. The reasoning is that if you could, sportsmen would likely attempt to grow the population to increase opportunity. We have very strict rules about releasing non-native animals in Colorado, for a good reason I believe, we want to ensure the health of our native wildlife. Seems like sound game management to me. You honestly believe that sportsman, or, anybody, that finds himself on the wrong end of feral pigs would want to increase their population? What the hell would cause ANYBODY to think that? Because hunters have a pretty solid track record of introducing pigs (and other species) where they do not belong, just so they can hunt them. Like that pheasant in your photo? No. Those were introduced by the state, I believe. Quite a difference. We are talking black-helicopters owned by hunters dropping pigs on islands and national forests, not black helicopters dropping cougars in cornfields and school yards. Surely, you can see how those two are quite different.  By the way, there is a really amazing film of Idaho wildlife people dropping pairs of beavers by parachute into the various wilderness areas in Idaho in the mid 20th century. Pretty awesome footage. Check it out on Youtube.
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I don’t know any hunters who own black helicopters.
I do believe, most of the people in my small orbit, who have had experience with wild pigs, would likely take a shot at the helicopter, before the pig. The pigs are beyond a nuisance, they are a threat.
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....No. Those were introduced by the state, I believe. Quite a difference. We are talking black-helicopters owned by hunters dropping pigs on islands and national forests, not black helicopters dropping cougars in cornfields and school yards. Surely, you can see how those two are quite different. By the way, there is a really amazing film of Idaho wildlife people dropping pairs of beavers by parachute into the various wilderness areas in Idaho in the mid 20th century. Pretty awesome footage. Check it out on Youtube. You are really putting Steve in a tough spot, I'm supposed to be the nut job.
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....No. Those were introduced by the state, I believe. Quite a difference. We are talking black-helicopters owned by hunters dropping pigs on islands and national forests, not black helicopters dropping cougars in cornfields and school yards. Surely, you can see how those two are quite different. By the way, there is a really amazing film of Idaho wildlife people dropping pairs of beavers by parachute into the various wilderness areas in Idaho in the mid 20th century. Pretty awesome footage. Check it out on Youtube. You are really putting Steve in a tough spot, I'm supposed to be the nut job. Do not fear. You will always be a nut job. You and Ted can compete for the crown.
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....I believe that shooting hogs is outlawed in at least a few more states. Missouri for one, perhaps Oklahoma for another. I have heard something about that on the grapevines. I've also heard that it is as much about busting up the sounders causing increased fertility in the same way that shooting coyotes increases population growth rates. I have not looked into the veracity of these claims, but they are at least plausible in the lack of data to the contrary. I like the way a scietific mind thinks. Metoo, I heard a bunch of things, without data to the contrary.
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Yes Ted, I do indeed believe sportsmen would release pigs in order to have more hunting opportunities, it has been done many times in many places. Did you not know that? I never said I thought it was a good idea. Pigs can cause major issues with other wildlife and the environment. I think both Montana and Colorado biologists have a pretty good grasp on how to manage non native wildlife.
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Indeed, it is a little known fact that roosters cause untold chaos in rural settings. The amount of lost sleep due to early morning cackling is a silent tragedy. I do my utmost each fall attempting to eradicate these obnoxious fowl from the high plains of the American West.
The sad and little known tale of feral Pheasant.
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