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Poles aren’t melting Jimmie. 5th highest level of ice since 2005, this year, at the North Pole:

[img]https://i.ibb.co/zNrPDK2/IMG-0292.webp[/img]

Or, as you know it, Santa’s house.

Best,
Ted

There you go, Ted. Here is your exact same picture taken of the North Pole IN THE SUMMERTIME. This is when the north pole is facing the sun. Do you see all those empty spaces on this chart that are filled in with ice on your chart? That is because the sun melts the ice in the summertime, which causes the permafrost BELOW THE SURFACE to melt. This is why you see movies of the glaciers falling into the ocean. Because the glaciers can no longer be supported and they fall into the ocean. And the warmer water below melts them. This is irreversible. And maybe in the next ten years or so the north pole will probably be ice-free IN THE SUMMER MONTHS. The dangerous fact is that now the south pole has started doing the same thing. The permafrost below Antarctica has begun to melt, too. You are probably also unaware that insurance companies like Allstate, State Farm and Progressive have started cancelling insurance on properties in Florida that are within two miles of the ocean because they are considered to be high risk areas because they will flood. St. Petersburg, Florida is already experiencing what are called, "sunny day flooding" where the city floods during a sunny day due to high tides, because the ocean has already started to rise just the tiny bit that it has.

Hi Jimmy, may I suggest some reading. Roald Amundsen's complete sailing of the northwest passage, 1903-1906. Looking at the maps above that journey would not be possible in July 2023. Still frozen. More Ice may melt in August and should open up more. My point is that the polar cap shrinks and expands every year. Glaciers collapse into the sea every year, creating icebergs. There is no perma frost under the Arctic polar ice cap as it is not a land mass. I would be much more concerned if the passage remained open to viable shipping. And yes I am aware that countries have laid claim to it for just that reason. Hedging their bets it seems.

My point is that the Northwest Passage has been sailed at least twice in not so recent (to us) history. Definitely before the widespread use of fossil fuels and industrial growth.

I am certainly not a climate change denier, that would be faulty logic as the climate is constantly changing as with everything else. I am sceptical that we are the sole cause of that change.

Chief