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BrentD, Prof #644299 03/18/24 02:47 PM
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The Hotyonium literature states that the more malleable a projectile the more kinetic energy is transferred to and used to penetrate the target. I do not believe this to be true. The more dense and rigid a projectile is the more it retains its kinetic energy allowing penetration until an equal and opposite 'push back' is reached. If a projectile is very malleable the projectile flattens against the target displacing the kinetic energy over a larger area with less kinetic energy applied against any single point of the target thus less penetration.


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Originally Posted by Tamid
The Hotyonium literature states that the more malleable a projectile the more kinetic energy is transferred to and used to penetrate the target. I do not believe this to be true. The more dense and rigid a projectile is the more it retains its kinetic energy allowing penetration until an equal and opposite 'push back' is reached. If a projectile is very malleable the projectile flattens against the target displacing the kinetic energy over a larger area with less kinetic energy applied against any single point of the target thus less penetration.

I think it is slightly more complex than that, but suffice it say that the numbers in the table are very appealing when compared with lead an bismuth, never mind steel.


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BrentD, Prof #644306 03/18/24 04:08 PM
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Agreed, it is far more complex however I tried to keep it a simple as possible without writing a paper to explain it completely. Unfortunately it may be some time before we see the Hortonium shot in stores since they seem be be focusing on bullet and shell manufacturers.


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Originally Posted by SKB
It's for real, how well it works, costs, etc I can not say. I'm still a lead guy, all the other options are a compromise I'm not willing to make unless forced. I don't hunt waterfowl and stick to places that me, my Holland and lead shot are welcome. I know some of you play different games, this just might be the ticket for your needs.
Style points Steve, magananimous and tastefully bitter. I like it, direct, agree completely.

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Some things never go out style Craig.....A ponytail, a comfy pair of Birkenstocks, Granola, Best quality British falling block rifles.....and the Rolling Stones. I'll be there in June, hanging with my old pal Keith, hope to see you there wink


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A step ahead of you, I'll wave to you from over by the thing. You keep the ptail, Clapton wuz mo bettah, 4 the spelling teach.

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How is this stuff made, cold fusion?

BrentD, Prof #644340 03/19/24 04:28 AM
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It seems to be unobtainium to me.

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What a bunch of nattering nabobs of negativity!

Just on general principles this crowd should be automatically supportive of Horton’s efforts. Or am I missing that there is a plethora of shot makers working to come up with a good, inexpensive alternative to lead.


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Originally Posted by canvasback
What a bunch of nattering nabobs of negativity!

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Just the norm for this crowd, wouldn't you say? It certainly sounds intriguing to me, and with 4 different manufacturers on three continents, it seems plausible that we might see some of it sooner than later.


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