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This gun has appeared on Gunbroker. https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1045183274![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/mJHNJoA.png) ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/ITdO5om.jpg) I've been in contact with the seller. I believe this is the first Reilly percussion pigeon gun I've run across. I've suggested he modify the ad as follows: E.M. Reilly 1868 11 Bore Percussion Live-Pigeon Shotgun11 bore (the bores measure .755) percussion shotgun made by E.M. Reilly & Co., SN 15143 (which dates to summer 1868 per a Reilly historian). The barrels are 32” and the gun weigns 8 lbs xx oz. It is housed in an original case with accoutrements and has an original Reilly trade label in a design used by Reilly from 1861 to 1868. The barrels have a flat filed rib used only on Reilly shotguns meant for live pigeon competition and may be the only Reilly percussion pigeon gun in existence. Reilly began advertising pigeon guns in 1868 in the London newspapers; an ad in “The Field” from 1869 shows that Reilly was selling both center-fire breech loading pigeon guns and percussion pigeon guns (which at the time were preferred by certain shooters). Ad is from 17 July 1869 "The Field" ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/RHYz2oK.png) ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/mshPUwB.png)
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Baluch are not Brahui, Brahui are Baluch
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No I don't have pictures but the poster does. He originally advertised it as a "double BPE rifle" and it was only after several messages about length of barrel, stock that he said it was a "smoothbore." I also recognize that the rib might not be flat - the photos are not good enough to tell. But he will send photos if asked.
Last edited by Argo44; 04/09/24 07:40 PM.
Baluch are not Brahui, Brahui are Baluch
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it is guns like this that remind me why I love double guns so...
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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I would seriously consider this gun if it did not have provision for a ramrod. Oh, well.
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There were no pictures of the barrels other than the ones of them in the case and the pictures of the proof marks I asked for; I'm not sure at all that the ramrod is actually attached to the barrels. I would ask the seller about this.
Baluch are not Brahui, Brahui are Baluch
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I asked for pictures of the bottom of the barrels. All I got was a picture of the tip of the ramrod that I had already seen. I give up. He is not going to give me what I asked for. He is not taking new pictures. He is rerunning pictures he has already shown. He is selling a drilling that he describes as a 16 gauge with no mention of the rifle barrel. I don't think he is someone I would like to deal with.
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That one is likely worth having it looked over by someone who knows how to evaluate vintage British sporting arms. Yes, his pictures suck and he does not seem to be very informed, but the gun itself looks worthy of more investigation.
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