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#65802 11/10/07 10:00 AM
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I'm reloading 10ga, and because of the cost of hulls, would like them to last as long as possible. Will roll crimping shorten hull life ? Is it harder to get the wads in if the shell has been roll crimped ? Any comments or anyones experience with this matter would be appreciated. paul

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There is little difference between the roll in a roll crimp and the treatment the same area gets in a star crimp so I doubt there will be a significant difference in longevity. And most star crimped hulls fail at the lines extending back from the star so possibly the roll is going to survive a little better. I reloaded 10ga 2 7/8" for a couple years using a MEC single stage loader. Didn't experience any difficulty with either Remington plastic wads or various fiber wads. Again the longer bent up material of a star crimp would make the issue more difficult but I used both with no significant problems.

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Interesting question, Paul. I've never loaded a roll-crimped shell more than once. If you are using smokeless powder and the hull body remains OK, I'm going to guess roll-crimping might last for a few more reloads, especially with plastic hulls. Plastic hulls don't roll as pretty as paper though, IME.
For getting the fiber wads in my 12 ga. Federal paper shells, I use a 10 ga. wad starter on my MEC Grabber. Don't do much of it anymore.


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thanks - guess I'll get the dies for my Mec. Paul

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Was doing some checking- RST sells low pressure 10ga shells for the same price ballistic Products sells empty Federal primed hulls for. Guess I'll just order a flat of 10's, shoot em up, and have 250 empty hulls to play with. Paul

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Roll-crimped shells live much longer, twice as long, or more, than star-crimped. Had enough experience with both types.

One hint is - don't overdo it, roll the shell in just enough to secure the wad.

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Bladesmith,

I have been reloading 10 guage(2 7/8") for only a short time, 60 rounds with blackpowder. I bought the federal hulls from BP. I have found that I had to use a Spin Doctor to seat my .5" fiber wad on the second reloading. I had to push the .5" fiber wad in quickly,as the hull closed slighly back the way it was. I then added shot and a .03 card and roll crimped. The 4.25 dram load with 1 1/8oz of shot has been effective for me. It also doesn't burn through the hulls as the five dram loads I loaded up did.

I will then cut the shell down to 2 5/8th" for a a third and hopefully 4th reload. I can only say that blackpowder is hard on the hull. I will have to see what kind of powder charge to use for this hull length. 90 grains?

I bagged two mallards with my 10 last week and am going tomorrow am for round two. I used the Republic Metallic five dram load with #4 bismuth. It is such a unique sound as 5 drams of blackpowder reverberates down the river.

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Quote:
5 drams of blackpowder reverberates down the river


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