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Bummer about the cracked forend, but I guess it will repair. There is a line across the lefthand hammer about half an inch or so from the screw just before the end of the engraving, is that a repair.
Springman, might be time to see the optometrist, at the muzzle end you can clearly see the line of the new sleeves, but it is a really nice job, by the way I have just got a new set of glasses so my visain is quite sharp until my eyes deterioate again.
Nice Gun, nice to see it back in action again.
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hotrack you must have very good vision. I don't see any lines at all. I see what you mean on the hammer but it has to be something with the photo, there's nothing there on the gun.
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Mike, Commiserations, I do think that fault should have been described by the auctioneer, after all it will reflect in the cost required to make good, so it should have been taken into consideration in the bid price.Caveat Emptor springs to mind. Bruce Kent, oops sorry, Hotrack give me the name of your optician, I can see the line where the barrel fillets are soldered between the barrels/ribs.But I can see bugger all else.
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I noticed the slot in the hinge pin is not level with the flat of the action. I bought a 577/500 Tolly double rifle years ago that was tightened up in England by slightly turning the hinge pin to have a fresh wear point. That evidently is another way to tighten a gun or rifle. Not saying that is bad, just another way to do things. I get surprised all the time with what has been done (or happened to) these guns.
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IMO that crack and the gap are a huge issue that should have been disclosed. They are obvious and significant in both appearance and function with even a cursory inspection.
That being said I think that once fixed the finished product will be a wonderful gun and well worth the effort.
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Jeff that was my position. Their position was different. I'm glad that I'm not going to have to make another forend metal.
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Hotrack aka Hawkeye! :-)
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I've always found Gavin Gardiner to be very forthcoming. One just can't rely fully on a description in a catalog. I suggest one does research first. If there is something I am interested in I call him on the phone. If you are cordial and ask informed questions he will often take the time and go over the gun with you. If he says a gun is "a bit tired" you should be able to interpret that. I would never bid on a gun without getting the barrel measurements, etc. first, and then speaking with him.
I'm not directing this comment at anyone, just stating that Gavin is "one of the good guys." ***************** My question to Holts would be "Are you alleging, and can I rely on your stipulation that the Purdey you sold would pass proof by British standards?" If one had brought that gun into the Proof House they perform a general inspection and that cracked action would have immediately, I believe, made them reject the gun for reproof until the defect was properly mended. Perhaps the cracks occurred when the gun was reproven and it somehow escaped being deactivated????How then did it find its way into the sale?
Perhaps if they sold that gun to a British buyer and the gun remained in the UK they and perhaps so others would have a thorny problem on their hands....
Once upon a time there was a certain former gun dealer in Maine who made a business of buying up British guns that would never pass muster in the UK because they were out of proof, needed rejointing, cracked actions, etc and selling them in the US - how he got them in is another story - and selling them as "collectors items" so, he felt, no implied shootability thus no liability.
He wasn't the only one - there was a time in the not distant past when lots of British guns offered in the US could never have been sold in the UK. The good folks at Woodcock Hill were always sticklers about their guns being in proof, and we owe them a debt of gratitude for this.
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Snow I didn't get it from Gavin.
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What retail gun business are the purchases by Mike H. being directed to? Mike, do you sell under a business name or as an individual? Thanks for replying.
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