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Old gold encrusted Japanese shotgun #82712 02/13/08 06:49 PM
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 2,468 Bend, Or Pete OP Sidelock
OP Pete Sidelock Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 2,468 Bend, Or	This appears to be a Meiji 1880+ Japanese 20 ga shotgun. The other Meiji I have seen are all rifles. They were made up to WW2. This one is encrusted with multi-colored gold. Has anyone any knowledge on these? I'll post 3 photos. [IMG]http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8dc32b3127cceb55ef685358c00000026100QbsmTFs5csY[/IMG] [img]http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8dc32b3127cceb55ef683358a00000026100QbsmTFs5csY[/img] [IMG] http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8dc32b3127cceb55ef680b4b900000026100QbsmTFs5csY[/IMG] Last edited by Pete; 02/13/08 06:58 PM.

Re: Old gold encrusted Japanese shotgun Pete #82713 02/13/08 06:52 PM
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,578 Likes: 88 Alaska Mike Harrell Sidelock
Mike Harrell Sidelock Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,578 Likes: 88 Alaska	Pete the last two are the same photo. Why would a shotgun need a rear sight?

Re: Old gold encrusted Japanese shotgun Mike Harrell #82726 02/13/08 09:33 PM
Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,054 Likes: 10 Raleigh, NC Dave Schiller Sidelock
Dave Schiller Sidelock Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,054 Likes: 10 Raleigh, NC	Mike, #2 & #3 are not the same photos. One shows the sight (clueless as to why it's there), the other doesn't. The gun reminds me of some of the Galazan Fox gold inlay work; fit for a Chinese potentate. Last edited by Dave Schiller; 02/13/08 09:34 PM.

Re: Old gold encrusted Japanese shotgun Dave Schiller #82733 02/13/08 10:35 PM
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,393 BC west coast Mike Bonner Sidelock
Mike Bonner Sidelock Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,393 BC west coast	Did not that gun start life as an 11mm Murata rifle? Mike

Re: Old gold encrusted Japanese shotgun Mike Bonner #82745 02/14/08 12:20 AM
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 2,468 Bend, Or Pete OP Sidelock
OP Pete Sidelock Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 2,468 Bend, Or	The 11mm x 60 (I think that was what it started as) came out in 1880 by Murata, but it was made until WW2 so that is a lot of time for a lot of variations. However, it could have been modified. I cannot find any markings except a serial number. The gold work goes all the way down the barrel.

Re: Old gold encrusted Japanese shotgun Pete #82777 02/14/08 10:58 AM
Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 300 Alaska-FINALLY TexasGerd Member
TexasGerd Member Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 300 Alaska-FINALLY	Pete I've got 3 of them from my travels. They were made around the 1910 era according to the locals. Mine are very plane jane by comparison to what you have. All 3 have the rifle like sites too. The 20 ga and 28ga both have 34" bbls. The 9mm shotgun has a much nicer stock w/ checkering but still, nothing like that. All work on the same principle/action as the Murata rifles. They were just scaled up/down. Dan Dan

Re: Old gold encrusted Japanese shotgun TexasGerd #85477 02/28/08 10:01 PM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 430 Bigfork Montana Barry Lee Hands Member
Barry Lee Hands Member Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 430 Bigfork Montana	The Gold work is Damascening, where the gold is applied to the surface rather than inlaid. When I visited Ken Hunt in London he told me his Damascene work was inspired by studying japanese work. After he told me this I went to Japan and met some craftspeople doing this amazing work. Here are some photos: All the best, Barry Lee Hands http://www.barryleehands.com

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