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eightbore #93418 05/03/08 09:38 AM
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I was very close to the weight. As for wall thickness it can and does very. I have seen some 21's backbored to .740 taking that much material off two barrels that are 32" long is going to lighten those barrels. Sorry i don't buy your wall thickness will not very. I have seen with my own eyes. As for the type of rib I want that would be Matted rib of course. I think a vent rib on a model 21 is ugly. Thats my opinion.


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1marine89 #93429 05/03/08 10:23 AM
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You guys might also want to check out Brent Umberger in Cambridge, Ohio. He is an excellent stock maker and gunsmith and one of his specialties is the 21. His 21s that I have seen him do are fabulous. His phone number is 1-800-490-5554. Good luck with your 21s.

Jimmy W #93430 05/03/08 10:27 AM
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Jimmy W thanks I will look into him.


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1marine89 #93514 05/04/08 05:13 PM
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Marine,
I too have strated to think about getting me a 21 to use for clays and waterfowl. I usually shoot 30" bbls, but have been thinking about a 32" Duck. I have never handled bbls that long, but I am very tall and confident that I could handle them. I need to find one and see how it handles. I would need it restocked as well to fit my longer LOP. CSMC has some nice ones to choose from and I might give them a call. I had them make me a Fox last year and they did an extraordinary job. I would like a Galazan 21, but spent most of my available funds on the Fox, so I may get an original 21.
Make a trip to CSMC, you will love it!

Kevin Springman #93533 05/04/08 09:58 PM
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Sad to say Brent Umberger passed away a few years ago.

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Sorry to hear that. I am thinking thats why I never found him in any of my searchs. I wish Shooting Sportsman would feature a gunsmith that specalizies in double guns in every issue. I was lucky to get to meet Mr. Trevllion (please forgive me if I spelled that wrong). He was a true gentleman and took a lot of time to talk to me about guns and gunsmithing. You could see and feel his love for double guns. I think men like that with those skills and knowledge should be featured in the magazine. Just my thoughts.


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1marine89 #93546 05/05/08 08:17 AM
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You might consider checking with Tom Smith about restocking 21's. He had done 2 21's for me and his work is the best.

Tom is located in Weston, Ohio.

Bill

ledbet #93550 05/05/08 08:50 AM
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ledbet,

I believe I did look into him. I could be mistaken as its been a while.


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1marine89 #93558 05/05/08 09:59 AM
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excuse me there Mr marine89 but I wonder when do yuou get time to fix helicopters? You are one of the most prolific writers on thiss site and at least one other one I know of, stuff like the Ruger Cup, Zone 7 shoot (you are from zone 1), Ithaca Classic doubles, model 21s', box birds, Andys shop, new Parker gun co, smith& parker challenge etc, etc. Can U tell us more about your work schedule??

Old Joe #93561 05/05/08 10:14 AM
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I don't control when they come into phase. Depending on missions and weather which dictates flight hours which in return takes them into phase. Besides phase its replace a cam lock here or there, tape blades, change a window, ect. All easy stuff. Yes I am on shotgunsports, shooting sportsmen, and here. Is that a problem? Is there a law against posting on multiple sites? I am very aware of what zone I am in or should say would be in. I use to shoot with Todd he is a great guy. I can not congradulate him on his Master class 1 in FITASC at the Ruger Cup? Or Brandon for shooting well on Five Stand at that shoot? Please let me know what I am doing wrong.

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