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Joe, you have had your chance at a field day. Not really justified in my view.
You should take off your blinders.

They (seller and buyer) communicated on the phone. Jim's silence speaks a lot.
Surely a lot was clarified in that conversation. We shall never know.

I still think that the 3 day inspection does not apply to "I don't like 26" barrels",
but...

Conejo, totally agree with you concerning Jack Maloney's outlook on the matter.
AFA well founded comedy, you rule. (The slipper reference is funny and profound
as far as gun photos go).

The buyers native tongue is clearly not english.

JMTC.

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I appreciate everyone's comments. Those in support of my position appear to be in the majority, thank you. Since HJ is at the top of my YAITU list, I have no idea what he said, and couldn't care less.

A few replies gave no clue as to what their opinion was.

I have bought and sold a lot of guns in the last several years. I have never returned one though some were better than described and others were not as good. I have accepted return of two guns in the past. Both smelled strongly to me that the buyer found a better deal while the package was in transit. Both were described honestly, as was this one . John and I had several phone conversations where we discussed every detail of the gun including why I was selling it.

The sale was made OFF the Gunbroker board and I gave him a very good price that included shipping and insurance. While we did not pick apart my offer of a 3-day inspection down to legal terms, it was my intention that it meant the gun would be as described, no hidden flaws or surprises. It was.

I knew John didn't like 26" barrels because we discussed that at length(no pun intended), on the phone. But he bought the gun anyway, knowing very well what the barrel length was. My refusal to accept a return for the stated reason that he "couldn't live with the 26" barrels" is justified, IMO. I can live with it.

My feedback rating on Gunbroker was not achieved by lying and/or cheating people. I'm sorry John is not happy but I will not change my mind on the subject.

This will be my last reply on this topic(I hope)

Thanks to all

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Bien hecho Jaime!!!

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The remarks about the guy not liking the gun because they are 26" might be a little bit off base. If he didn't like them he'd never have bought the gun. Someone can like a particular length of barrels on most guns yet not like the way they feel on a particular gun. The only way to make that determination is with gun in hand. I can guarantee you that I can find something on any gun that isn't listed in a two paragraph auction. Unless it was obvious damage or a misrepresentation and not something subjective I would expect to pay return shipping as the buyer.

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The way I see it they are both wrong. One, for 22eley attacking Mr. Legg's character. Two, for Mr. Legg not refunding the money.

Dan

Yes, although the latter was merely a reaction to the former. I'm not sure where else 22eley could go to get the sympathy, gratification, or whatever he was seeking.


John Boyd, I appreciate your business ethics. You understand that simple tenet that the customer is always right, even though he often isn't.

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Originally Posted By: HomelessjOe
JIm's email to the buyer should have read...

3 day inspection period will apply. Shipping both ways would be at your expense, if you try and return it yOu can kiss my dAiry'air.




Did anyone really expect Mr. Legg to honor his email to the guy ?

I know I didn't.


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I would treat this as any other contractual disagreement; I would try to work things out and if I was unable to do so I would litgate the matter in my jurisdiction, attempt to obtain a judgement and proceed from there.

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jOe I believe it comes down to interpretation of the "three day inspection." I can see both interpretations but I believe Jim's was an honest interpretation.

When I make a deal to buy a long distance gun I ask for and usually receive a "No questions asked 7 day right of return." After the deal is made I followup with an email or fax as Jim did.

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I don't know either of the principals, but I think Mr. Legg is being too rigid.

Whenever I buy or sell a gun on the internet, I use the wording "the buyer may return the gun within 3 days of receipt for ANY/NO REASON, but must pay shipping charges both ways."

Over the past ten years, I've never had to return a gun, but have had two returned to me.

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There's nothing I hate more than a guy who counts the replies, and then thanks everyone for their vote of confidence.
Jim Legg prolly has blocked all the negative reviews!

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Thorny, is english your native language?

It isn't mine, but I try my best!

JC


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