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The 1st picture:  With link to the bigger picture so you don't have to go find my other post: Smith & Wesson Elite #1 Looking at this picture...I have to aggre on the barrel verbiage...They need to put it UNDER the fore-end. That looks like hell. ...and the 2nd picture:  Again, with the ling to the bigger pic: Smith & Wesson Elite #2
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BTW, all that crap on the barrels is NOT a government requirement. I have a new SIACE that doesn't have it, and the Ruger Gold Label I had did not have it either.
The gun companies are choosing to do it, most likely at the behest of paranoids in their insurance companies or internal legal staff that is clueless.
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My comments are ment to be constructive. Honestly. This gun is ruined by that lousy gold stamp on the barrel. Nothing sets this gun apart from the competition. It's just another "me too" offering. You boys have to offer someting different than everybody else. My Dehaan SGR 13 should be here soon. I will post my finding for the board. -IM
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Tom: you've taken some (misdirected) abuse in the place of S&W but thanks for posting and giving us an opportunity to contribute.
BTW: and yes, my grandfather would have been embarassed to carry a gun with gold stamping on the brl. Please ask S&W to lose the 'Elite' label. Maybe something that at least sounds American? (and not chosen by the Marketing Dept)
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...the barrel verbiage...They need to put it UNDER the fore-end. That looks like hell. I concur. What were they thinking? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but ugly is still BUTT UGLY.
Mark
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At the risk of sounding insistent, imagine what Dig could do roaming the British countryside with a thousand plus quid in his pocket!!
JC(AL):-)
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I'm gunna stick my skinny ole neck out and say that label is there just for doing "the circuit" and perhaps the markings on the production guns will be a bit less LOUD?!
Not much to go on, but at this point I like the way it is finished at least.
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BTW, all that crap on the barrels is NOT a government requirement. I have a new SIACE that doesn't have it, and the Ruger Gold Label I had did not have it either.
The gun companies are choosing to do it, most likely at the behest of paranoids in their insurance companies or internal legal staff that is clueless. I am an importer and the law requires that the name and address of the importer be marked on the gun, if it is in fact an import. And it can't be hidden. (On a takedown, it's OK to have it under the bbls but on a bolt rifle, it cant be hidden by the stock). But I agree, there is no need to do it in a crass manner.
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The top pic shows attractive colors in the casehardening and the couple of square inches of wood shown seems to show hand checkering and fair wood quality. Wood and metal fit seems decent for the price point. The engraving shows restraint, which in my book, is for the better. The electro-etch marking on the barrels is a blight to any gun and really tears this good looking gun down several notches. Any liability driven safety statements like Ruger has on their guns also would reduce the appeal to all of the guys I know and probably would get 100% concurrence on that with this bbs membership. I like a well matted top rib for its functional effectiveness in reducing glare when shooting toward the sun. I couldn't make out in the pics if the rib is matted. If not, I'd sure prefer they added it if I were considering one of these guns. The 'squiqqly line' type of matting is my preference when done deep enough. 
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Russ,
There is nothing unusual about the content of the marking compared to ...say a Fox or Parker of vintage years. It's the way it was marked. Electro-etch in large block letters is a cheap way of complying with the law. If it was roll-marked in the manner traditionally done on other vintage guns in an appropriate size, I wouldn't object to the content shown.
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