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Just a thought, if there are members that are familiar with the administration and logistics of organizing an overseas group hunt it would be great if they'd share their experiance and knowledge!


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The way it works is this:

You pay your fee for the day. This includes 100 birds to be expected in teh bag by the end of the day.Bear in mind this is a syndicate shoot you are joining, not a full-on commercial venture. We are out for sport, not to count who killed the most.

We have aprotocl that on any given stand you will not shoot more then five birds. Thsi is because we are out for teh day and if two guns shoot 20 birds each on the first two satnds, we can all go home at 11 O'clock.

A gentleman does not gauge his success for the day on what he has killed in numbers. this is driven shooting with a twist but it is not pot hunting.

We expect Guns to select only sporting birds, we do not shoot a pheasant 20 feet off the ground, we want to shoot birds over the trees. 100 excellent quality sporting birds is a fantastic day's sport. 100 low birds blasted to get your personal kill tally up is not what we are about. the shoot is on atop-quality set-up and there are plenty of birds. There is no need to shoot rubbish.

It would be a really good environment to learn how the ettiquette of aproper driven shoot should be. That means you learn your zone when at the peg, you do not shoot quartering birds (whhich will be driven birds to your neighbour)etc. Too many people with teh cash to go on expensive driven shoots do not appreciate the right way to conduct themselves. This is one reason I'm setting up the syndicate - to promote correct values and discipline to the whole team. It makes the day so much better for all concerned.

As I said, prices about reflect cost to us but I would love to have fellow enthusiasts over to experience what we do at prices they can consider and experience real shooting in an established team of like-minded people.

You may shoot ten birds to your own gun during the day, you may shoot two; these are free birds and the weather, your peg and how well you shoot will all play a part in the outcome.

I expect we could sort out a fixed-price package deal in advance to include use of a gun, hotel, pick-up and drop-off, ammo etc and I love the idea of fixing the dates close to London gun auctions - makes great sense.

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Firstly, in my opinion the original post merits a place here, and not on “Misfires.” Nor is it commercial, as it is not a direct offer, but is a request for an “expression of interest.” If it looks as if it will fly as a Shoot, then it could be moved to either the “For sale” or “MisFires”

There is no doubt that it is a great deal. The only problem I would foresee is the bag size. On a recent driven shoot in the UK – and on others before that where the Gunds were strangers– there was a tendency to the “Greedy Gun” syndrome. Eighteen Guns, six drives, 100 birds. That’s roughly a bird per Gun per drive……
Will come over myself if I’ve any money left………………….

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I do know one thing. I just recently asked Dave if it was ok to post my website link in my signature. I was told it was unfair to paying advertisers and not allowed.

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I think its fine here. It is about vintage doubles, shooting. What else is needed to qualify.


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I would pay that just to go along. Heck, I would even be Kerryman's gunbearer and loader just to get to see the event. So if I got stuck next to a game hog or two it would still be enjoyable for me. As someone mentioned if it could be timed at the same time as a major gun auction it would add value to the trip.

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I've shot in the UK several times and that's a very good deal. Reasonably priced driven shooting is to be had over there but you've got to know local people to locate it. An American guy off the street isn't going to find it going through a sporting agent.

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Yes! Keep us in the loop.

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I would love to be part of this. One bird per drive sounds good to me. And a gun auction to go to later, how does it get any better. Please put me down on your list. Thanks, Frank

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Originally Posted By: Jeff G.
I also think it is fine to post here (ignore the BBS NAZIs).


I agree. You will notice that the "BBS NAZIs" seldom if ever contribute anything constructive, but are pretty much the "usual suspects" with their occasional one-line-zingers critical of other people's posts. The idea that someone in London is trying to get something going at a reasonable price (or an unreasonable price) is the sort of cross-pond information and networking that ought to be encouraged. Many here will recall, and no doubt read with interest, the fine article by "financially challenged" Market-Hunter-Destry in a recent issue of the DGJ.

Destry told of how he hooked up with some British sportsmen on an Internet site, and how he used the Internet to arrange his own shooting expedition to Scotland. He bought airline tickets on-line and researched how to take along his Parker shotguns; he found a source and ordered custom-built golden plover decoys on eBay. He used e-mail to nail-down his expected contribution to a "shooting" and how to pay his share of a the necessary guides, local transportation and lodging; he also pre-arranged for a permit to import some of his shot game for a photo shoot at my place to illustrate his article.

The Internet can be a great facilitator or a "poison pill." Why anybody would question or object to this sort of thing is a sorry testimonial to the BBS NAZI mentality that I saw and experienced on the LCS and Parker websites...and thus moved my "wastin'-away-in-cyberspace" surfin' & postin' interest here.

I for one would like to explore the possibilities of a "good-ol'-boy" low-cost trip to the mother country, devoid of the excessive Lord of the Manor extravagances that seem endemic to the magazine articles and ads. Therefore I would like to know more; why is it that those who dread, and would like to know less about "commercial activity," can't just move on to a more socialisticaly-pure thread that is of interest to them?

Believe it or not, my new book, Parker Guns: Shooting Flying, makes no mention of the Second Amendment, but explains the First Amendment's freedom of being heard and published in the context of the pre-revolution censorship of the press that resulted in there being no guns-and-hunting books published in America until 1783, when the British troops and Loyalists were disembarking. Keep in mind that we need the First Amendment's freedom of speech to even talk about what the Second Amendment means. Thus the BBS NAZIs serve as a constant reminder of how quickly our fellow Americans can turn on us when things don't fit their personal agenda. Investigation continues. EDM


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