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Gun is on "For Sale" section of this site looking for offers starting at $3,500.00. Stock deminsions are drop at comb 1 3/4", drop at heel 2 1/2" with a 14 1/'4" length of pull. Just a guess at weight at around 6 lbs.. Gun was custom made for a man of medium stature, 5'-11" and 180 lbs. I am of the same stature with medium size hands and gun comes up like a dream.

Sort of a comparable. Looked at a game configuration (12 bore, I think) Beretta S3 of '50's vintage. Very similar engraving style. Three large would have taken it home, IMO. Interesting trade-off between unique and known name. Do post the results of your sale here, please!!

I will come in late to this discussion and offer some thoughts.
When researching my Franchi a couple of years ago, I learned a bit about Italian guns and makers from 1930 to 1960. It seems that quite a few masters were working in small shops and made bespoke (custom) guns. These outstanding (for the most part) guns were not made for export and therefore often did not have all the marks that we have come to expect. Many did not have the makers name as it was the gun that advertised the quality and not the name. This confuses us today as we put much stock in brand identification.
FWIW---I think the gun is Italian. The I do not think that it came to the builder in the white. The engraving style started(in Italy) around 1930 and was brought there by Belgian masters immigrating from Liege. This style is common in the finest of these Italian guns of that time and until the 50's.
We do not see them here very often. The men, in Italy, that own them have not sold them and not too many were built anyway.
The gun would cause much attention in Italy and would bring far more money in Europe than here unless a collector of Italian guns sees it for sale.
Best,
John

To keep this interesting Italian gun present I would like to add another example of a non-germanic gun with Kersten locks. It is Gastinne-Renette single barreled rifle:




Very germanic looking though.

JC(AL)

ALL COMENTS IS BAD, THE MAN IS ITALIAN THE NAME IS MARIO FABBRIZZIOLI Y FIGLI RIMINI (SON AND THE RIMINI IS THE CITY) IN ITALY I TALK WHITH THE FAMILY, THE COMPANY IN ITALY AND MARIO FABBRIZIOLI, MAKEHAND THE FINE SHOTGUNS ANDMUSICAL INSTRUMENTS OBOE AND TRAVERSA FLAUTAS MADE HAND, I HAVE ONE SHOTGUNS 20 GAUGE NUMBER 462 IN 1956 MY GRAND FATHER SEND MAKED ONE FOR CHILEAN HUNTING PARTRIDGE, THE FINE GUNS IS MORE BEST TO IVO FABBRI AND THE PRICE IS US$85.000 AT US 120.000.- AMERICAN DOLLARS FOR THE SHOTGUNS ., YOUR NEED MORE INFORMATIONS AND PHOTOS SENDE ME A MAIL TO MARCELLOAVATTE@HOTMAIL.COM THE BARRELS IS BOHLER ANTINIC FROM GERMANY ONLY STEEL (IRON), MY SHOTGUN MADE FOR MY GRAND FATHER IN 1955 AND THE WORK IS FINISH IN NOVEMBER TO 1956 AND ARRIVE TO CHILE IN JANUARY 1957 IN THIS TIME THE PRICE IS LIKE TO NEW CADILLAC MY FATHER TELL THE GUN IS VERY VERY SPENCER IN THIS YEAR. SORRY MY ENGLISH MY ITALIAN IS BETTER., I NEED ONE SHOTGUN FOR MY SON VITTORIO 28 GAUGE OR 410 THANKS YOU

very nice shotgun from best craftsmen in world the italians. i like the CROSS arrangement st. hubertus will smile kindly and the game bag will be full at end of the day.

Hi Chile 69
I purchased the above shotgun and it really is a beautiful shotgun. I would love to know more about the maker. I have many Italian friends that can translate any information you may have.
Thanks, Jeff G.

Jeff, my thought is the gun was engraved by a Belgian engraver, Possibly Schoffeniels.

Hi Daryl,
It certainly resembles your gun, mine shows no marks from Belgium or signatures. I thought it looked alot like JC's Bregoli engraved SO. The little I have learned about the engraving style said that it originated in Belgium.
Thanks
Jeff G.

Jeff, your gun is beautiful. I do see several Belgian makers with engraving similar , especially from the 50s and before. Yours is not signed, so your guess could be correct. Whoever did your engraving had seen some of the Belgian guns of that period.